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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRaise your hand if you didn't suspect our data is being monitored.
If you are one of those who are *shocked* by the supposed revelation, then where were you when Bush was playing dictator? Where were you when Congress passed the Patriot Act?
And if you did know then, were you led to believe that Obama stopped it? At any point during his first term, or this one?
Snowden and his character are irrelevant. The revelation isn't a revelation at all.
This 'monitoring' has been happening for a long time, yet we the people have chosen to do nothing.
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Raise your hand if you didn't suspect our data is being monitored. (Original Post)
Avalux
Jun 2013
OP
Dr Familiarhate or how I stopped worrying and learned to love universal surveillance
Fumesucker
Jun 2013
#1
Jack... Jack, listen, tell me, ah... when did you first become, well, develop this theory.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#2
Our former president and vice president would never hsve set this up. Just ask them.......
wandy
Jun 2013
#8
If James Clapper swore under oath that this wasn't happening, and if the Senators believed him,
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#9
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)1. Dr Familiarhate or how I stopped worrying and learned to love universal surveillance
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)2. Jack... Jack, listen, tell me, ah... when did you first become, well, develop this theory.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)3. Better late than never!
still_one
(92,421 posts)4. I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.
Bannakaffalatta
(94 posts)5. I'm shocked and scandalized -
- have been for decades. But the pink pills help.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)6. not shocked. nt
boston bean
(36,223 posts)7. Clapper denied it was happening not too long ago.
So why did he deny it if it was such public knowledge?
wandy
(3,539 posts)8. Our former president and vice president would never hsve set this up. Just ask them.......
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)9. If James Clapper swore under oath that this wasn't happening, and if the Senators believed him,
why should we have otherwise known that it was happening?
It's all old news? I'm not buying that.
mick063
(2,424 posts)10. The Patriot Act has long been despised here.
The timing of this NSA article doesn't mean shit.
I could care less if it was written yesterday or twenty years ago.
You can't rationalize the policy just because of how long it has been in place. You don't justify it because "folks shoulda known better".
I like the fact that the issue is "front in center" and I don't care how it got there. The bottom line is that it is currently in the public consciousness and that is a very good thing.
It is more important to me than the credibility of current Democratic leadership. They can own it for all I care. For no other reason than that it might be Kryptonite for the next batch of Democratic leaders.