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If you read this, you'll understand why so many of us have trouble trusting Glenn Greenwald.
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/nsa-story-falling-apart-under-scrutiny-key-facts-turning-out-to-be-inaccurate/
It turns out, the NSA PRISM story isnt quite the bombshell that everyone said it was. Yes, there continues to be a serious cause for concern when it comes to government spying and overreach with its counter-terrorism efforts. But the reporting from Glenn Greenwald and the Washington Post has been shoddy and misleading.
We shouldnt shrug off our weakened privacy as a merely a side effect of the digital age, either. We ought to fight to preserve as much of our personal information as possible. So if theres any benefit to the NSA news, its to serve as a reminder that, yes, the government is serious about attaining information in its war on terrorism and that we should be aware of whats going on checking it when it gets out of control.
But with new contravening information emerging since the original stories were posted by Greenwald and the Washington Post, its clear that the reporting by each news outlet was filled with possibly agenda-driven speculation and key inaccuracies.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)It's been posted and debated about here already.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)lying weasel glenn
7. Additionally, the NSA whistleblower who provided the information to the Washington Post was quoted as saying, They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type. Without direct access to the servers this would be impossible that is, unless the NSA was intercepting user data in transit. But thats not what Greenwald reported, which was direct server access. This was the bombshell that the NSA could grab information at will and, as of this writing, its inaccurate.
holy shit!
By the end of the day Friday, Business Insider reported that the Washington Post had revised its article. The article no longer reported that the tech companies knowingly cooperated with PRISM. But, more importantly, the phrase track a persons movements and contacts over time in the articles lede was revised to track foreign targets. Theres a huge difference between the two phrases
Whisp
(24,096 posts)UPDATE: This post by ZDNets Ed Bott is a phenomenal takedown of the Washington Posts reporting on this story, including a side-by-side comparison of the significant changes between the Posts initial article and what it morphed into later. Clearly the Post rushed to press with a half-assed article, subsequently inciting outrage. Then, while everyone had run off to accuse the Obama administration of being worse than Bush the Post altered key facts in the story. Its a dark chapter for American journalism.
http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-story-in-the-nsa-scandal-is-the-collapse-of-journalism-7000016570/
The real story in the NSA scandal is the collapse of journalism
Cha
(297,723 posts)Wide Spread Ignorance. Willful and otherwise.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)of power.
it;s all the same story.
DeltaLitProf
(770 posts). . . and has even upped the ante by now saying he has a list of names of those surveilled.
My prediction: there's no such list.
Number23
(24,544 posts)around here have very casually, very thoroughly and very DELIBERATELY overlooked the Post's rather astonishing walk back of their original reporting.