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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKick this thread if you can think for yourself.
I like facts. In fact, I prefer facts to frenzied reporting and hyperbole.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)No I do all my thinking for someone else.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)But, never mind.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)Because unlike these robot cockroaches, we humans tend to adapt rather slowly.
The insects, intended as a neuroscience learning tool, are controlled via a mobile phone.
The Technology, Entertainment and Design conference specialises in showcasing new technologies.
The theme of this year's conference is "think again", and the line-up of speakers is diverse, including a monk and a self-styled gentleman thief.
Among the technology on offer this year will be RoboRoach, the brainchild of neuroscientist Greg Gage.
Cross post, thanks to East Coast Pirate, http://www.democraticunderground.com/122819550
undergroundpanther
(11,925 posts)It would freak out some slob who never cleans their kitchen (I know one) ..I'd love to hide a bunch of those remote control roaches in their house and when he wakes up at night (and he does to get something to drink) have them scurry out and spell
Hey! YOU Clean this shit UP!!!...
LOL.. Needless to say I don't like going over there,and ..I always bring my own bottles of water and keep it short. The guy I'd do this to is a obnoxious ass(not actually abusive just a sometimes rude rethuglican twit)Sad thing is his wife is a kind person,and fun to hang with,but she's a mess but not as bad.So we hang out in other places.I'd have to tell her so she'll put what happens when he sees this on the internets.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)with a tomato!
siligut
(12,272 posts)Series? The little hairy legs didn't tip you off?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)MUAHAHAHA.
Do I need a icon?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I scrutinize media reports and don't believe everything I read.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)....THAT is worth a whole barrel of unquestioned Blue Links,
and a number 9 tub of straight Up Cut & Paste?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But I let whatever comes by into the house of my mind and let it play. Even the fanciful things, like conspiracy as there are reasons for people believing those things.
Going into what people say and do is a chance to visit their minds. I want to see the reality of the person I get information from, to try to see the world through their eyes and not mine. I go the journey with them, sometimes for a long way. I don't just want matches to my data, as I am always working to synthesize something new.
I take into consideration constraints of my era, and places I will not allow to take control, but still do not refuse to observe:
Bigotry, abuse, callousness, greed, and all the permutations of those things no matter how dark the path is because that's part of what drives us. And always want to know a reason behind it all. I've come to learn that some of the most wicked of people, who encompass the things I hate the most, don't see it at all.
People don't wake up, as they may imagine Hitler did, rubbing his hands with glee and saying, 'I'm going to do some great evil today.'
No, he thought he was saving the world. No more than a bomber who kills people thinks he is doing a terrible thing. No, he likewise thinks he has a higher calling and is willing to sacrifice others to get there.
We need to know what is valuable to them. If you or those you care about are the ones someone is willing to sacrifice for their cause, watch them very closely. They are not your ally, but you better pay attention.
Humans have reasons for what they do, so we have to figure it out and see what will become of it. If nothing else, to prepare to live with them, or get as far away as we can. Some things are just toxic waste.
If my visitor is foolish enough to feel it's their right take a leak on the rug in the living room of my mind and find fault with my not accepting it, they are politely escorted out.
Cha
(297,705 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Tis a conundrum.
ananda
(28,877 posts).. can't my independent critical thoughts be dependent on someone else's
if we happen to agree?
sinkingfeeling
(51,474 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Thanks for kicking the thread.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)... to open some peoples eyes?
kentauros
(29,414 posts)My mind was repossessed by aliens ages ago.
Oh shit! Now I'm gonna get it! I just posted when you said not to. Oh, wait. That would be the possessive aliens posting, so it's okay. They are thinking for themselves through me.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Dogs flew spaceships!
The Aztecs invented the vacation!
Men and women are the same sex!
Our forefathers took drugs!
Your brain is not the boss!
Yes! That's right! Everything you know is wrong!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)Tikki
randome
(34,845 posts)Most won't bother. But I think the outrage over the Greenwald/Snowden Affair (GSA?) is overblown. And so far neither of these guys has earned my trust.
Especially when one has gone into hiding in Hong Kong.
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HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Neither Greenwald nor Hong Kong Eddie Snowden have earned my trust either. There are too many questions unanswered.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
randome
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greatauntoftriplets
(175,750 posts)who didn't bother to check out Hong Kong's extradition treaty with the U.S. before attempting to hide out there.
undergroundpanther
(11,925 posts)Because I'm a mal-theist. I recognize there are unknowns but really it's just unknown. When a religious twit on the street asks if I know where I going when I die,my answer is...
#1 I'm Damned,Happily Damned and I'm ok with that.I'm glad to be Damned because most of the world will be too.Might even see you there too..bye.
#2 Not scared of death or "after", So I and you don't know,I don't care, We have no control over it,death is gonna happen to all and I'm ok with not controlling my own death ,knowing or caring about death and after .I'll find out like most people do about the afterlife,after I'm dead. I like surprises.
Both of these replies tend to twist 'em in a knot so they leave me alone.
randome
(34,845 posts)If there is no Afterlife, there's nothing I can do about it.
If there is an Afterlife, there's nothing I can do about it.
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pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)good for you!
cali
(114,904 posts)savvy.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)how closely it resembles a request to "eat this bread if you don't wanna stink by yourself" https://www.google.com/search?q=moldy+bread+pictures&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7RNQN_enUS484&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=z424UeK7JI2tygG21IBY&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1680&bih=808
of course such a thought (or more accurately, the expression of it) might be deemed insensitive, insulting, rude, divisive,etc, etc, etc, unlike the thinly veiled content of like kind readily seen in the top post.
This crew sure are bold with the accusations of a lack of thinking prowess, a lack of access to and/or an understanding of all the available facts in their totality, etc, in the wake of chained cpi being put on the table after months and months of denials on their part that had such factors as the cause, as well as their seemingly blind allegiance to a person above and before all else. What's striking are the similarities between tactics used. For example, now instead of being Mutt supporters, etc, as was charged prior to the election for broaching the CPI issue, we're Paulites, etc.
It would be amusing if they weren't so predictable.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)In addition to facts, I also like truth, reason, logic, intelligence, democracy and the U.S. Constitution.
Oh, I'm also keen on CHECKS AND BALANCES.
-90%Jimmy
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)My sense of the universe just shattered.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)I did think so when I posted this. If it isn't true I'm sorry (although being addressed as a female shouldn't be taken as an insult in 2013)... I'm not sure if I'm confusing pro with TX4Obama... My brain hurts now... Anyone who knows better please correct me.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If the poster gets pissed at me and kicks me in the nads, I assume it's a dude.
If the poster gets pissed at me and leaves scratch marks all over my eyelids, I'm assuming female.
I really have no idea.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)There's maybe 6 DUers where I gleaned that they're female... I'm also one of the few posters who knows that nadin is a man ... Well, whatever. I also find myself operating under the standard assumption that anyone I encounter here is male. That's why I try to remember when someone is clearly identified as a female...
Thanks for the laugh...
Renew Deal
(81,875 posts)Or does kicking it mean the same thing as not kicking it? Both are a choice. It's all very confusing.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)mimi85
(1,805 posts)nineteen50
(1,187 posts)the world was flat became a joke because of creative thinking and time. Be careful your facts don't face the same fate. It takes courage to be naive, but oh the insight openness can bring.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)propaganda is teaching
things that are false. As a first comment
on this proposition, one is
tempted to repeat Pilate's question.
Yet the unpleasant connotation of the
term" propaganda" is due in considerable
measure to the notion that it is
synonymous with deception. Much
evidence to support this contention
can be advanced. Advertising propagandists
resist the establishment of
publicly administered tests and standards
by which their unsupported
claims can be measured. Medical
frauds flood print and air with meretricious
claims. Political and economic
quackery speed on winged feet over
every avenue of communication.
On the other hand, much that is
characterized as propaganda comprises
undeniable facts. Mr. Brisbane
points out the relative smallness of
our airplane defenses. Is this propaganda?
The conclusion that we should
immensely enhance our expenditures
on military and naval aircraft may be
argumentative, but it is not essen-
tially deception. The Junior Chamber
of Commerce urges that the use
of school buildings be denied to Communist
groups. Whether or not the
practice thus urged is sound public
policy is a matter of opinion, not fact.
Mr. Hearst (as Mr. Coolidge did in his
Delineator articles, when Vice-President)
declares that our colleges are
permeated with "reds." This may or
may not be a fact, according to the
definition given to the term "red."
What the facts mean, and what should
be done about them, if anything, are
matters of opinion.
It should be pointed out, moreover,
that not everything taught in the
schools can be definitely labeled as
fact. Perhaps the data of mathematics
are facts; yet the examples given
for solution in any given textbook of
arithmetic or algebra may-can, in
truth-scarcely escape embodying a
point of view concerning economic institutions.
A school reader containing
stories of the lives of great men
may inculcate Carlylean individualism;
a community civics may, on the
other hand, stress ideals of cooperation
and the importance of the group. A
high school economics text (if it be
several years old) may indicate that
the Federal Reserve Act made depressions
impossible or unlikely. Through
all the writing and teaching of the
social subjects runs inevitably a current
of interpretation. The spoils system
may be described as an evil that
should be abolished; it may be stated
that the Supreme Court interprets,
but never makes law; the Spanish-American
War may be referred to
as a humanitarian undertaking designed
to save Cubans from oppression.
These are not facts, but opinions
about facts."
Wooddy, C. H. (1935). Education and propaganda. Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Sciences, 179, p. 228, 229.
You may like facts, but you like opinions about facts even more.
sheshe2
(83,926 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)The irony.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)the arguments we've been having have been illuminating. there's a lot of wisdom around here, and apart from the odd troll or congenital shit disturber, we're all on the same side. Crowds bring out the worst in people. don't take it to heart.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)When they inform me, I will let you know.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)When people assume you don't think ANYTHING is going on just because they haven't seen you post on one of those "check in if you _____" threads. And you make them scared because they assume that about you.
Crazytown.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)randome
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Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...but, I like to think for others, as well!!!
randome
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MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr]
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Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)jorno67
(1,986 posts)I can't seem to find it...what should I do?
HeroInAHalfShell
(330 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)spin spin spin spin ....... don't you ever get dizzy?
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Given the OP's defense of the status quo.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I may print it out and frame it.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)It is completely illogical on the face of it to think the government can do what people have been imagining.
The fact that the data is taken from corporate control, encrypted and classified, never looked at unless a computer program detects a pattern and a warrant granted, seems to have escaped notice.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)your facts will prove to be what you initially scorned as hyperbole.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)moondust
(20,006 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Facts are indeed good, which begs the point, what facts would you like to see?
applegrove
(118,805 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Unintentionally Ironic DUzy awards?
flvegan
(64,416 posts)The delicious irony.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Does that mean I can't think for myself?
Nimajneb Nilknarf
(319 posts)CBHagman
(16,987 posts)One is imagination, and the other is humility.
One of my great frustrations about the media in the U.S. is the pressure to boil everything down to a trend, a sound bite, those 140 characters. It encourages conformity more than analysis.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)To think like you!
If we can think for ourself then quit linking to posts to change our mind!
You are really a piece of work!
rucky
(35,211 posts)I think I'll hold off on posting: "Kick this thread if you think puppies are cute"