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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:06 AM Jun 2013

Teacher fired over ex-husband’s ‘threatening and menacing’ behavior

An elementary school teacher fired by a private San Diego-area school following a domestic violence incident involving her ex-husband is speaking out about her ordeal.

Carie Charlesworth, who taught second grade at Holy Trinity School in El Cajon, Calif., told the San Diego NBC affiliate that the incident with her ex-husband occurred back in January.

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Her ex-husband was subsequently sent to prison, but in April, the school fired her anyway.

The Diocese of San Diego wrote in a letter to Charlesworth that it was concerned about her ex-husband's "threatening and menacing behavior."

The letter noted, "We feel deeply for you and about the situation in which you and your children find yourselves through no fault of your own. Although we understand he is currently incarcerated, we have no way of knowing how long or short a time he will actually serve and we understand from court files that he may be released as early as next fall. In the interest of the safety of the students, faculty and parents at Holy Trinity School, we simply cannot allow you to return to work there, or, unfortunately, at any other school in the Diocese."

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Not surprisingly, advocates for domestic violence victims are outraged.

"We have 1 in 3 women in the United States who are victims of domestic violence," Heather Finlay, chief executive of YWCA San Diego, told NBC 7. "Firing all of them is not the answer."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/teacher-fired-domestic-violence-ex-husband-161455153.html

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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. and if he beats her and she goes to the ER- insurance will not pay her bills
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:24 AM
Jun 2013

unless she proves to them she is having him prosecuted. My friend had a last minute work thing that ended up costing her 15 K because she missed a court filing. They want to sweep this shit away and let the woman take the brunt of it.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
2. I found a site that does Catholic to English translation ...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jun 2013

...and I entered "We feel deeply for you and about the situation in which you and your children find yourselves through no fault of your own. Although we understand he is currently incarcerated, we have no way of knowing how long or short a time he will actually serve and we understand from court files that he may be released as early as next fall. In the interest of the safety of the students, faculty and parents at Holy Trinity School, we simply cannot allow you to return to work there, or, unfortunately, at any other school in the Diocese."

and the translation was

"You're a bad person. Go away. You're fired."

Oddly enough, when I entered "pedophile" the translation was "prius-t"

Seems like they need to work on their spelling ... and their principles, priorities, and practices.

In all sincerity, I sympathize with this woman and her children. I would like to say that I understand her despair about the ordeal...but in reality I have no comprehension of how it feels to work for an organization that espouses compassion but acts with rejection.



OK. I know. I entered all of the above text into the translator and got "You are so going to hell." Fine. Thanks for your noble intentions, but I've saved you the trouble of replying. Fine.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. This is not discrimination. The pro-active stance they've taken is prudent when the link is read.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:27 AM
Jun 2013

The man came looking for her and the school had to be put into lock-down for protection of the students. That could not have gone over well with the parents, they likely insisted she be fired or they would withdraw their children from the school.

This is going to be a more frequent reaction to a gun-happy society that refuses to restrict a convicted offender from owning a weapon and system that cannot lock him up long enough to prove he's not dangerous. I bet they fear a mass shooting when he gets out.

Who knows what this man is capable of doing, as he may be vindictive and obsessed with her. We know from the story he already knows she worked at the school, and he may return to kill her in the fall. I've read of people who were killed by such men just because they were in the vicinity of the target of their rage and vengeance.

I've had friends who had to change names and move out of state to escape abusers. The State of California may need to do the same for her and her children. It's best she make a new life where he can't find her or them, if he is so violent he went to prison. Whatever he did was serious to get prison, not jail.

She's not denied getting a job as a teacher anywhere but where he already knows she worked and can target her and her students and the staff. While she may be able to sue, another position may open up for her soon, just not where he already went after her and endangering others.

Her continuing to work where he already went after her is not a good idea, and he sounds very dangerous. She will have to do things she never had expected to get away from this man. It's part of protecting one's children and one's self from harm. It's a huge financial loss, but sometimes there is no other choice.

Good luck to her as she seeks to make a new life where he can never hurt her again.

Hekate

(90,771 posts)
4. I completely agree with you. She needs to get out of Dodge asap...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:28 AM
Jun 2013

She has some time between now and when he gets out of prison, and she should pack up and leave with no forwarding address, not even telling her neighbors where she is headed.

The school is protecting their children and teachers -- this is not a CYA on their part. He might still come back and shoot up the school, even if she disappears.

Good luck to her.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Yes, time to make a new life. Hope he doesn't come back to the school. It's horrible, but he may.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:12 AM
Jun 2013

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
6. I cannot believe this.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 05:43 AM
Jun 2013

Your reaction is to punish the person who is stalked?
Stalkers are notorious for not giving up. He will find her eventually.

This man is a danger to society. He may be aiming at her now, but his rage could easily targt someone associated with his wife. They are just moving a time bomb somewhere else.

Stalking is one of the most traumatizing crimes. As long as the stalker is loose, the victim never feels safe anywhere. Imagine living with that fear 24/7.

The penalties for stalking have to be markedly increased. There are stlll a lot of places that don't take stalking seriousy.

Maybe while demanding that the teacher be replaced, those parents should direct a lot of their energy towards those who make laws and those who enforce them.

This is not a "their" problem. It is a problem or all of us.

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