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flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:25 AM Jun 2013

Convicted U.S. spy Christopher Boyce: 'Snowden is doomed'

Editor's note: Convicted spy Christopher Boyce was jailed for 40 years for espionage after selling U.S. secrets to the Soviet Union. In 1985, his story was turned into a Hollywood film -- "The Falcon and the Snowman" - starring Sean Penn and Timothy Hutton. Released in 2003, Boyce is currently working on his memoirs "The Falcon and The Snowman: American Sons."

(CNN) -- Sitting alone in a hotel room, unable to contact friends or family or even walk the teeming streets of Hong Kong without looking over his shoulder, there can be few who can claim to know the fear and isolation that NSA leaker Edward Snowden is living through.

One man, however, is better qualified than most.

Former spy, fugitive and convicted traitor, Christopher Boyce sold U.S. secrets to the former Soviet Union and dodged U.S. authorities for almost two years until his arrest in 1977 at the age of just 22.
Young, idealistic and driven by a mixture of political conviction and outlaw excitement, Boyce eventually received a 40-year sentence for espionage. In 1980, he escaped from the Federal Penitentiary in Lompoc, California and, while on the run, carried out a string of bank robberies in Idaho and Washington State -- crimes for which he says he carries a greater weight of remorse than for those of espionage.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/14/world/asia/hong-kong-boyce-snowden/index.html

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Convicted U.S. spy Christopher Boyce: 'Snowden is doomed' (Original Post) flamingdem Jun 2013 OP
so is Manning backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #1
boyce didn't serve 40 though. 24. with an escape in there somewhere. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #2
So, for the espionage he was sentenced to 40 years... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #3
Boyce sounds like he doesn't know Cha Jun 2013 #4
Somewhere along the line, Snowden got some really shitty advice railsback Jun 2013 #5
"I sure as hell wouldn't trust the Chinese government, if I were him." Damn good advice Number23 Jun 2013 #6
Christopher would know on this topic. roamer65 Jun 2013 #7

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. So, for the espionage he was sentenced to 40 years...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jun 2013

... plus he broke out of prison and he carried out a string of bank robberies - and he served only 25 years.

I think nowadays he would have to serve a lot more than that.

Cha

(297,513 posts)
4. Boyce sounds like he doesn't know
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:48 AM
Jun 2013

what he's talking about..

He's uncovered things and made things public that sound, to me, as if they're illegal

I don't know if he has an arrangement with the Chinese government. If he doesn't, I would be worried that the Chinese may deport him to the United States to gain some concession in return. I'd be terrified of that, if I were him. Who would trust the Chinese government? He is utterly vulnerable and knows that there are a lot of people who really want to hurt him now. If I were him, I would at this point probably be having second thoughts. Asking myself "What did I do? What have I brought down upon my head? Did I really do this?"


thanks for the article, flamingdem
 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
5. Somewhere along the line, Snowden got some really shitty advice
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:31 AM
Jun 2013

Probably from Greenwald, who's raising funds off this guy. Is there a Karma God?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
6. "I sure as hell wouldn't trust the Chinese government, if I were him." Damn good advice
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:09 AM
Jun 2013

but it may be too late for him to take it.

K&R that's a hell of a read

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
7. Christopher would know on this topic.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:28 AM
Jun 2013

He has been through a very similar experience, through which he gained an understanding of the paranoia and deception on both sides of the aisle.

There is a lot of wisdom in his words, now.

I think if Chris had it to do over again, he would have simply quit the job and went on to do something more meaningful.

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