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Redstate Bluegirl

(213 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:05 AM Feb 2012

Tom Friedman: "maybe the best thing would be for (the GOP) to get crushed in this election"

"WATCHING the Republican Party struggling to agree on a presidential candidate, one wonders whether the G.O.P. shouldn’t just sit this election out — just give 2012 a pass."

Link here http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/opinion/sunday/friedman-we-need-a-second-party.html?_r=1&hp

Trouble sleeping, scanning web, found ^

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Tom Friedman: "maybe the best thing would be for (the GOP) to get crushed in this election" (Original Post) Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 OP
that will happen in less than 2 Friedman units. Syrinx Feb 2012 #1
lol! rurallib Feb 2012 #5
I can't stand that unsufferable ass hole.... WCGreen Feb 2012 #2
Exactly Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #3
I've been pontificating on this for a while... ewagner Feb 2012 #4
I think that is a good theory Tomay Feb 2012 #6
I concur.... ewagner Feb 2012 #9
"Friedman is the crown prince of Republican orthodoxy" Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #7
A glimpse of the course back to political sanity and relevance for the Republican galleon. VioletLake Feb 2012 #8
Laughing at the piratical (?) metaphors, although I'm coalition_unwilling Feb 2012 #10
One of My Conservative Friends Says Dirty Socialist Feb 2012 #11
Friedman is hardly a Republican. He's a liberal. mainer Feb 2012 #12
Neoliberal, sure. nt VioletLake Feb 2012 #13
HUH?? HughBeaumont Feb 2012 #18
I read Tom Friedman all the time mainer Feb 2012 #23
I cant wait libtodeath Feb 2012 #14
No matter what happens, the GOP moves further right ThoughtCriminal Feb 2012 #15
"He-who-shall-not-be-googled" Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #16
The GOP WILL get crushed. RBInMaine Feb 2012 #17
The GOP clown car meets an ignominious end... pinboy3niner Feb 2012 #19
That's ALWAYS the best thing, Tom. Iggo Feb 2012 #20
Maybe the best thing would be for them to move to a compound in Guyana. n/t Ganja Ninja Feb 2012 #21
Or Somalia. I hear it's a "no government" paradise. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #24
Duhhhh Bandit Feb 2012 #22
I think the nomination struggle is fairly normal Broderick Feb 2012 #25

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
4. I've been pontificating on this for a while...
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 10:06 AM
Feb 2012

my theory is that the power brokers in the Republican Party despise the tea-party and the wealthy extremist nuts who are financing it. They cannot stop it and can't control it so they will let it run its course and destroy itself.

I don't think they intended the tea-party conservatism to take over the party; they just wanted to use it the same way they use the religious right to bolster their vote totals but they completely lost control over it due to wealthy ultra-wealthy right wing zealots being able to bankroll the movement.

Friedman is the crown prince of Republican orthodoxy and I think he's caught on to the tactic.

JMHO...

yours?

Tomay

(58 posts)
6. I think that is a good theory
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 10:52 AM
Feb 2012

I, too, think Friedman and other Repug elites are on the verge of writing off 2012. It's like a repeat of 1964, when Goldwater's fanatics seized control of the GOP primaries and defeated the "establishment" candidate, Nelson Rockefeller, then went on to a crushing defeat. The GOP elites kind of stood back and let it happen, for the most part, hoping to purge the party of the loonies in that way. It worked, until 1980 at least. The difference is that unlike the Goldwaterites, the Tea Party has no particular favorite candidate to allow to be crushed; if, say, Santorum won the nomination, and was beaten by Obama in November, I don't think it would finish off the Tea Party. Its lack of a clear leader makes the Tea Party very resilient, in my opinion. I think the Repugs are in real danger of fracturing as a political party. I can hope so, at least.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
9. I concur....
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 12:58 PM
Feb 2012

I think, however, that the far right will coalesce around either Newt or Santorum at the convention and make them the de-facto leader of the tea-party

 

Redstate Bluegirl

(213 posts)
7. "Friedman is the crown prince of Republican orthodoxy"
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:46 AM
Feb 2012

The use of 'Republican' is in this case redundant.

VioletLake

(1,408 posts)
8. A glimpse of the course back to political sanity and relevance for the Republican galleon.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 12:22 PM
Feb 2012

Which happens to be to port.

They unleashed and empowered their scallywags because scallywags is all they have. And now they have a mutiny on their hands.

Will Captain Romney heed Father Friedman's advice and find the courage to stand up to the mutineers, or will he be made to walk the plank for being a spineless landlubbing hornswaggler?

Stay tuned...

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
10. Laughing at the piratical (?) metaphors, although I'm
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 01:08 PM
Feb 2012

sure you intended no insult to real pirates by comparing these parasites (no offense to biologists) to pirates.

mainer

(12,029 posts)
12. Friedman is hardly a Republican. He's a liberal.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 01:28 PM
Feb 2012

I'm astonished that you're all lumping him in with the GOP.

He made the mistake of supporting the Iraq war as possibly transformative for the middle east, but other than that, he's definitely on the economic left.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
18. HUH??
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:18 AM
Feb 2012


I'm stunned with two "n"s. Anyone who shills for the 1% and speaks almost sexually for the wonders of Free Trade, offshore outsourcing and globalization as this asshat does is what I would call being on the polar opposite of "the economic left". Friedman couldn't be more clueless, non-caring and non-thinking when it comes to the problems and solutions American workers face in zero-sum globalization.

I'm curious, have you ever read any of his articles and/or books? It really doesn't sound like you have and I'm just wondering how you would come to a conclusion such as that.

mainer

(12,029 posts)
23. I read Tom Friedman all the time
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:01 PM
Feb 2012

He's absolutely a social liberal. He comes at economics from a mainstream approach.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
14. I cant wait
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:44 PM
Feb 2012

until November when the cons have lost the white house,the house of reps and we gain seats in the senate.
If that does`nt happen with this pack of crazy anti americans running then all hope for this country is lost.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,049 posts)
15. No matter what happens, the GOP moves further right
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:06 PM
Feb 2012

It's a one dimensional ratchet that can only go one way - right.

If Romney gets nominated, they lose, not as badly, but they lose. The Teabagger/Religious Right/Racist wing, blames the loss on moderates and compromise. GOP moves farther tight.

Gingrich or He-who-shall-not-be-googled get nomination, and the same gang of nuts gets more control over the party, purge anyoneone that doesn't get in line and they move further right.

The Republicans are locked themselves in a positive feedback loop of extremism that they cannot escape.

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
25. I think the nomination struggle is fairly normal
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:06 PM
Feb 2012

BUT, the cast of characters they are struggling with has to be demoralizing for them.

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