Welcome to the new economy.

Hope you find a job soon.

The bachelor's degree requirement, i mean.

WTF?

Maybe someone will come along and enlighten us.

have that degree. 5%? 20%?

ones I met, PhD means piled higher and deeper. Most can barely speak the language that I met, let alone be university educated.

The people who drive those humongous trucks have amazing skills. I could not imagine having the ability to skillfully maneuver a giant tractor trailer in limited space, backward, to line up with a receiving door, much less avoid wrecking the whole building.

You have my respect, and thank you for doing an important job.

I truly admire the big truck drivers. How they can squeeze their rig into a tiny parking space just amazes me. If I tried to do that, I'd be leaving a trail of debris as well.

a truck. You'd be surprised how many accidents new truck drivers have. Two years experience is nothing.

They can set the bar to stupid high levels because there will be someone who will meet that requirement. If they aren't 100% sure of ho bad they need that position filled they will simply keep raising the bar to gather resumes.

They already have someone in mind they want to hire, and are just posting a ridiculous qualification to keep the number of competing applications down.

happens all the time

Been in the situation before and had to give the boss my quals so they can write the listing tailored to my skills. Its fairly common in a lot of businesses.

Happened to me too more than once when I was young. Hired as a temp and they wanted to keep me, so they wrote the qualifications unique to me. Sucks for others in that situation, but it happens.

Better luck in your job search.

The place where I worked was obliged to post an advertisement in the paper. But they wanted to keep me. So they wrote a job specification which suited me perfectly. And we got one other application. The guy would have been perfect. I felt sorry for him

I realize for government jobs, and government contracts, its often required to list the job, and hold a certain number of interviews, but it doesn't sound like this applies.

I've had to hire for a job, when I knew who I was going to hire, and when people asked me about the position, my response was that were not accepting applications. It was only after the person I had in mind turned down the job, that we posted the position.

As one who hired and fired for 30 years that's one of the ways it's done. I remember being "the chosen one" for a position and the interviewer actually asked me if I wanted to see the interview questions in advance so I'd be prepared. I declined. Needless to say, I got the job.

apply anyway.

In Transportation Management, not driving a truck. Bizarre.

Nothing worse than being managed by people who don't know what it's like to do your job.

boss I ever had drove a Pepsi truck for a couple years. He really thought he knew how to drive a truck, LOL!! Dumb SOB ass kissed his way up to being called the North American Logistics Manager.

Sometimes it's better to have someone who knows what you have to deal with and sometimes not.

years later, he really doesn't know how to drive one any more.

to be a friend or relative of management or a favored employee. The company I worked for did that all the time to slip in a management or union official's friend or relative.

on edit: Guess what just popped up to the right of my post, an ad for a truck driving school.
There is an example of corporations using a similar program as the NSA to sell stuff. They see truck in a post and up comes a truck driving school ad.

have.

...major at Iowa State University. I remember many students who had that major.

Most major companies have a Vice President of Transportation---someone who coordinates and manages the shipping/transporting of goods and works at improving efficiency.

I imagine there are managers, middle managers and project coordinators who work under those veeps.

I've never heard of a truck driving having a trans/log or transportation management degree, but it would not surprise me.

Interns in graduate school. Seriously.

Great pay, a pension and good benefits. Unfortunately, the hours suck but the pay doesn't.

Basically the job market is flooded with people who have college education. Therefore, even low skilled jobs can now start demanding college degrees.

It's part of a coordinated effort to say they can't find qualified people.

members or someone who is otherwise connected with the person who already meets the criteria who they actually want to be hired in a corporation or (2) MBAs, who are so smart that they don't have to be practical.

is they'll list "must have" items that are not really "must have".

"Must have experience writing Windows device drivers". Applicant has experience with Linux device drivers, and Windows applications but not device drivers. Gets the job anyway.

It may be that this practice is spreading.

Ridiculous shit like using SVN is some kind of skill.

Years ago someone with a BS going for a job like that would be overqualified or the interviewer would tell the person that's not the job for them.

All you needed before was a High School Diploma, CDL, clean driving record and pass a drug test.

My neighbor owns a trucking firm and I know he wouldn't require a BS in transportation mgmt. His number one requirement is for the person to be dependable and responsible.

he knows the trucking 'ropes.'

First is, that often the ads give their "ideal" qualifications, but will happily hire someone with a whole lot less.

You will never know unless you actually apply for the job. Of course, if you are not the one hired, you may still not know how serious they were about that bachelor's degree.

Several people have said things about the company being in some way required to post the job, but the qualifications required are there so they can hire the internal person they already want to hire. I have always wondered about the claim that companies are obligated to post jobs to the general public. I've been hearing that for at least forty years, and it's always sounded a bit off to me. While I am certainly no expert on the laws covering how companies are obligated to advertize for jobs, it's always seemed not quite accurate that companies "must" post jobs, even when they already know who they want to hire.

Can someone enlighten me here? I want to know something about the specific laws involved, not just the common understanding about this.

The only situation where people pull this to comply with a law is with H-1B visas. I get a whole lot of unsolicited emails advertising software development jobs in locations I've never expressed an interest in working - Dice.com resume doesn't list Indiana, get offer from Indiana.

In those cases, they need to show they tried and failed to find a US candidate to get the H-1B visa.

But much more common is trying to comply with company policy instead. Lots of managers will already have a candidate in mind, but are required to conduct some sort of job search before hiring them.

But I can say that for so many years I've heard people complain bitterly that a job posting isn't a real job posting since the person to be hired is already known, and I've always wondered about that. I haven't worked for very many different companies, and to be honest I've never actually been aware of company policy requiring a fake job search.

About 15 or so years ago I was looking through the help wanted in the local newspaper and asked my then husband about some of the listings in IT, his field. He also hired people in that area for his company. I was marvelling at requirements for ten or more years of experience. He assured me that the requirement was really the dream of the person who wrote the ad, and in reality they'd settle for half of that, perhaps less.

Times do change, I know, but ever since then when I'm looking at help wanted ads, I frequently discount a certain amount of what they're asking for. Clearly, relevant experience and education matters, but only up to a point.

Sometimes employers list unrealistic requirements, but don't really enforce them.

Drivers are usually good about helping fellow drivers out. I don't think it's a scheme between colleges and the company though. It's not worth it to a business. Those drivers will want more and will leave as soon as the economy picks up. I think it's what the others said about an internal hire, or they're looking for someone to promote.

in order to be a substitute teacher's aide.

I suspect they wont get many applicants with those credentials.. if any.

He'll first have to learn how to drive with an over the road company that will put you with a trainer for about a month. Then you go out on your own with a company truck for a few months to gain enough experience to land a local driving job.

but my point is that often "job requirements" are not always "requirements".

they hired him and he has a terrible accident. There's a good chance they would hire him without any experience, but we're not talking about an office job. Truck driving is a dangerous occupation.

The only explanation I can come up with is they are looking for someone to eventually move up into management.

Also that $18.00 an hour is on the high end for a job like that.

Good luck on your cdl test.