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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:23 PM Jun 2013

Why is NSA making all these confessions?

Do they anticipate more leaks in the next day or two and are attempting to get ahead of the stories?

Do they know what information Snowden may have stolen on the "thumb" drive?

Is it OK to lie if it is for "national security"?

Will the House ever investigate the lies of the NSA with John Boehner in charge?

Is it unusual for stories such as these to come out unless there is a reason?

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Why is NSA making all these confessions? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2013 OP
they were many article in the press about NSA spying over the last few years Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #1
It's really a waste of time without a priest being there. L0oniX Jun 2013 #2
Snowden. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #3
Stasi State 2.0 is Open Source. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #4
What confessions? I don't see where they've confessed anything. Catherina Jun 2013 #5
They are trying to survive the 72-hour news cycle BlueStreak Jun 2013 #6
3 answers RobertEarl Jun 2013 #7
One thing it says... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #8
It's called "limited hangout". scarletwoman Jun 2013 #9
This ^^^ N/T beevul Jun 2013 #11
Just as your phone call records and internet usage is collected, the FBI has already collected Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #10
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Snowden.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:29 PM
Jun 2013

They know what info he has, and are trying to get ahead of the story.

It will be interesting to see if there's a Congressional investigation or perjury charges. I sort of doubt it, Republicans want this vast intelligence apparachik for themselves if they get the WH.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. What confessions? I don't see where they've confessed anything.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jun 2013

What we know so far, from them, was dragged out with great difficulty.

But I did read that they have a pretty good idea what Snowden has based on what they could tell he accessed. Frankly, I don't believe they have more than vague guesses.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
6. They are trying to survive the 72-hour news cycle
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jun 2013

One of the Kardashians will do something stupid in the next several days and then they can all go back to what they were doing before.

Plus, these confessions are giving them some immunity. If there is a terrorist attack ahead, they can blame it on the fact that they were forced to expose their secrets.

And if the heat gets much worse, well, then let's say it would be very unfortunate if America suffered another attack, wouldn't it?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. 3 answers
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:34 PM
Jun 2013

Yes. They anticipate the story exploding. And they were asked by congress to explain. The NSA explained - in secret - but then the FBI was caught lying.

Yes. They know what Snowden took. If they didn't they should all be fired.

All of this was bound to come to light because they are a few patriots left.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
8. One thing it says...
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jun 2013

That the secrets they're trying to protect by throwing whistleblowers in prison aren't as important as the code of National Security Omerta.

They're making these disclosures themselves, which means these things aren't the super-duper uber-secrets that will allow Al Qaeda to nuke the Statue of Liberty if they were ever disclosed. When they disclose the secrets themselves, for no reason other than spin-doctoring, that means that these things shouldn't have been secret to begin with.

No, it's all about vengeance and punishment of the wayward national-security analyst who has a sudden attack of conscience and spills the beans on the American Stasi's crimes.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
9. It's called "limited hangout".
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jun 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

A limited hangout, or partial hangout, is a public relations or propaganda technique that involves the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details. It takes the form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality, by withholding key facts, is protecting a deeper operation and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out. In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.

A limited hangout typically is a response to lower the pressure felt from inquisitive investigators pursuing clues that threaten to expose everything, and the disclosure is often combined with red herrings or propaganda elements that lead to false trails, distractions, or ideological disinformation; thus allowing covert or criminal elements to continue in their improper activities.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Just as your phone call records and internet usage is collected, the FBI has already collected
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jun 2013

Every key stroke he made while at NSA and charges will be forthcoming. Guess he did not expect them to "catch him".

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