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Can someone explain to me how having to adhere to my employer's religious standards (Original Post) Kber Feb 2012 OP
Not sure libtodeath Feb 2012 #1
For explicitly religious posts you are correct Kber Feb 2012 #4
Thank you libtodeath Feb 2012 #9
Isn't EVERYONE christian? Politicalboi Feb 2012 #2
Of course! KansDem Feb 2012 #3
It is complex, to say the least The Genealogist Feb 2012 #6
I have been told it is a mystery............ Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #11
freedom from religion is for the federal gvmnt so if your employer is not the gvmnt it doesnt apply leftyohiolib Feb 2012 #5
True, but most employers are prohibited from Kber Feb 2012 #7
yes but lector Feb 2012 #8
Of course - but they still have to come up with an excuse Kber Feb 2012 #12
Employers get to dictate your religion to you - but only kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #10
Well that goes without saying, doesn't it? Kber Feb 2012 #13

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
1. Not sure
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:55 PM
Feb 2012

but I think religous organizations are exempted from that part of hiring laws.
They can openly discriminate against someone that doesn`t hold there beliefs.

Am I wrong on that?

Kber

(5,043 posts)
4. For explicitly religious posts you are correct
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:13 PM
Feb 2012

but for, say, the janitor in my synogogue or the lunch lady at a catholic school, they don't have exemption from civil rights laws.

I can certainly wrap my head around insisting that the teachers in my daughter's Sunday school classes need to teach Judiasm instead of something else, since it is a specifically jewish institution.

However, we are talking about doctors and nurses in catholic affiliated hospitals and such. They are covered by civil rights legislation currently.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. Of course!
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:09 PM
Feb 2012

And some Christians are more Christian than other Christians.

There are over 33,000 denominations of Protestantism alone--
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a120.htm

I've never understood why God's word requires 1,000 pages and someone with a college degree to interpret it.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
6. It is complex, to say the least
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:15 PM
Feb 2012

I wrote my MA thesis on half a verse in 1 Corinthians. My thesis was well over 100 pages long. It took all that length to evaluate the context, how that verse fit in it, and a review of existing ideas, research, opinions and conclusions, and to give my own conclusions. Yes, over 33,000 denominations of Protestantism. Not all, but at least some are concerned chiefly with being right (owning ABSOLUTE TRUTH) and how their being right (OWNING THE TRUTH) and your accepting their version is the key to the Kingdom. Glad I am an atheist and don't have to hope I picked the right one out of the thousands. Must be a terrible strain to have that worry.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
5. freedom from religion is for the federal gvmnt so if your employer is not the gvmnt it doesnt apply
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:15 PM
Feb 2012

Kber

(5,043 posts)
7. True, but most employers are prohibited from
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:20 PM
Feb 2012

discriminating on the basis or religion. The exemptions are pretty narrow. So even though I work for a private employer, I am not allowed to consider religion in the hiring decisions and am required to make "reasonable" accomidation for religious beliefs.

My employer can't force me to attend a certain church as a condition of employment, based on current civil rights law, unless I am applying for a specifically religious position (priest, rabbi, etc.)

lector

(95 posts)
8. yes but
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:38 PM
Feb 2012

Your employer can create any excuse he/she wants. Like " I don't like his attitude, or lack of production as ways to get rid of any outsiders..

Kber

(5,043 posts)
12. Of course - but they still have to come up with an excuse
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 04:04 PM
Feb 2012

and they are technically breaking the law (even if they might get away with it).

But they cannot state, explicitly as a matter of policy, that I must adhere to their standards as a condition of employment. That's what we are talking about with the latest demand from the Catholic Bishops. They want any employer to be able to require me to go without the protections afforded to all other women, as a condition of employment, and based on my employers interpretation of God's will.


 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
10. Employers get to dictate your religion to you - but only
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 03:59 PM
Feb 2012

if they are members of the One True Religion(TM). If they or Jews or Muslims or pagans or whatever, well, not so much.

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