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SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 11:51 AM Jun 2013

NSA admits your 4th amendment rights mean nothing.

You know many people who are defending the NSA's right to collect data say that if they found out that the NSA was listening in to peoples phone calls that would be going to far. Well, the NSA has admitted in a classified briefing that they can listen to anyones phone calls without a warrant...
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/rep-nadler-nsa-can-listen-phone-calls

"The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."

If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney who serves on the House Judiciary committee."


But hey, keep going after Snowden. He's the big problem here, not what he exposed.

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NSA admits your 4th amendment rights mean nothing. (Original Post) SomethingFishy Jun 2013 OP
Who ever cares about what they listen to... dkf Jun 2013 #1
I care. SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #2
But is that the end of your concerns? Do you care that they have location data tracking where you dkf Jun 2013 #3
Are we on the same side here? SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #4
That thing about not listening to your conversations is a red herring. dkf Jun 2013 #5
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. Who ever cares about what they listen to...
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:03 PM
Jun 2013

I care about them being able to know in which location I've been for the last how many years, better than I know.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
3. But is that the end of your concerns? Do you care that they have location data tracking where you
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jun 2013

Are and where you have been?

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
4. Are we on the same side here?
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jun 2013

I got news for you. it's worse than that. With the exception of when you are at home, most of your life is videotaped. And that will change too, pretty soon they will claim that you might be plotting a terrorist attack in your bathroom so they need a camera in there.

I need no convincing about things being way worse than we think. I know for a fact they were analyzing every phone conversation for keywords back in the 80's. I can only imagine the next gen technology they are using against us today.

Imagine what tech will look like in 10-20 years. That's what the government has now..



 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
5. That thing about not listening to your conversations is a red herring.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jun 2013

They are saying they don't do the one thing that I personally find less of a problem than the rest of it.

"You are spying on us". "We don't listen to your phone calls".

What's left unsaid is that they are soaking in all our location data and who we call, text, and email, and what we search, for, read and write on the Internet.

It's a diversionary tactic.

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