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kentuck

(111,098 posts) Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:45 AM Jun 2013

Who is pushing us to go to war with Syria?

Besides John McCain and Bill Clinton?

I don't think Barack Obama wants to intervene in that civil war? And he is the person that must sign off for it to happen. But he is getting a lot of pressure. The rule of unforeseen consequences is waiting on his decision.

I seriously doubt that Britain or anyone in Europe is in a rush to intervene? So who would be pushing for such action?

More than likely it is the military apparatus, along with the intelligence organizations, in this country that are the behind-the-scenes war mongers. They can never get enough war. They call the shots and they make the money as young men and women come back from war with their arms and legs missing, if they come back at all.

I hope the President is not persuaded by the comments of McCain or Clinton and that he follows his heart and gut on this matter. We cannot handle another war at this time.

It is unfortunate that the Syrians are killing each other but they will need to resolve their issues without interfering with the lives of their neighbors. The UN should monitor Syria closely but we should keep our noses out of this one. Just my opinion.

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Who is pushing us to go to war with Syria? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2013 OP

Too late. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #1

It might be the "It'll be quick! We'll be in and out!" sales pitch. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #2

Coporate interests and certain countries in the middle east cali Jun 2013 #3

That's my take. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #5

The usual suspects. Exactly the same coalition that ginned-up the second Iraq war. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #4

Follow the money jsr Jun 2013 #6

For a very long time the USA stayed out of wars in the mideast, which is a tinder box loudsue Jun 2013 #7

Who stands to make the most profit from it? Triana Jun 2013 #8

They won't be satisfied until the whole damn middle east is in flames. Initech Jun 2013 #9

This thread has some morsels about the process flamingdem Jun 2013 #10

MIC. nt bluedeathray Jun 2013 #11

This Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #12

The peasants are talking of being upon sire nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #13

The Warlords. Iggo Jun 2013 #14

Really simple people... typeviic Jun 2013 #15

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)

1. Too late.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:49 AM

Jun 2013

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)

2. It might be the "It'll be quick! We'll be in and out!" sales pitch.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:51 AM

Jun 2013

The promise is that this intervention would be something like Libya or Yugoslavia - keep our own troops out of the worst fighting, create some no-fly zones, give guns to the Good Guys (TM), and we have an Exit Strategy (TM) to ensure we're not going to get bogged down in there. "We promise not to kill too many toddlers!"

It sounds good, but that's what they said about Iraq - it'll be quick, we'll be in and out, they'll be welcoming us as liberators! It only took ten years to extract ourselves from that clusterfuck.

We're still in Afghanistan.

LBJ said Vietnam would be quick, we'd be in and out, just lend a hand to the Good Guys, send some advisors, we already see the light at the end of the tunnel...

cali

(114,904 posts)

3. Coporate interests and certain countries in the middle east

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:56 AM

Jun 2013

and it's not a civil war anymore. It's a regional war and it's a proxy war.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

5. That's my take.

Reply to cali (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:46 AM

Jun 2013

And, as I posted elsewhere, I think this is the first step in a wider Middle Eastern war; we're creating & fueling a conflict between the Sunnis & Shia on some sort of misguided Divide & Conquer principle.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023024986

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)

4. The usual suspects. Exactly the same coalition that ginned-up the second Iraq war.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 08:18 AM

Jun 2013

They haven't changed .... and neither have their assorted agendas.

jsr

(7,712 posts)

6. Follow the money

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:51 AM

Jun 2013

It's the same old well worn routine.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)

7. For a very long time the USA stayed out of wars in the mideast, which is a tinder box

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:55 AM

Jun 2013

of conflicts, and has been forever. It took George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and the PNAC crowd (military-industrial-oil-commercial complex) to fuck things up permanently.

And they have all become obscenely wealthy because of it. Sucking the money and human resources out of our country, while everything in this country goes to hell in a hand basket.

Triana

(22,666 posts)

8. Who stands to make the most profit from it?

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:26 AM

Jun 2013

There's your answer.

Money = GOD.

Initech

(100,076 posts)

9. They won't be satisfied until the whole damn middle east is in flames.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:47 AM

Jun 2013

Fuck the war machine!!!

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)

10. This thread has some morsels about the process

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:52 AM

Jun 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3030444

bluedeathray

(511 posts)

11. MIC. nt

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:16 PM

Jun 2013

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)

12. This

Reply to bluedeathray (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:19 PM

Jun 2013

sums it up.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

13. The peasants are talking of being upon sire

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:22 PM

Jun 2013

Ready the troops, march off to war, it always pacifies them!

Iggo

(47,554 posts)

14. The Warlords.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:24 PM

Jun 2013

typeviic

(61 posts)

15. Really simple people...

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 01:49 PM

Jun 2013

It is the Israel lobby, plain and simple folks. All of this "Arab Spring" nonsense (Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, now Syria), is just war by other means. Remember your history people. During the 1980's remember all those Democratically elected governments in Central and South America, where the military industrial complex covertly and overtly overthrew them?
That is what is going on in the so called "Arab Spring", where currently these thugs in Syria (the FSA) are nothing but a 90% non-Syrian, hired mercenary army that is covertly funded, supplied, and supported by the West.

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