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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:07 AM Jun 2013

Taliban fighters shrug off NSA surveillance revelations: ‘We knew’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/14/taliban-fighters-shrug-off-nsa-surveillance-revelations-we-knew/


Former Taliban fighters in Jalalabad. (Noorullah Shirzada/AFP/Getty Images)

KABUL — Like the rest of the world, Taliban officials learned last week of the U.S. government’s large-scale surveillance program on citizens and foreigners, which included access to a massive amount of information gathered from online communications.

Unlike many Americans, the Taliban was not surprised by the news.

“We knew about their past efforts to trace our system,” Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told The Washington Post. “We have used our technical resources to foil their efforts and have been able to stop them from succeeding so far.”

The U.S. military and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force haven’t tried to hide their efforts to keep track of Taliban activity. Floating, blimp-like aerostats use cameras to keep an eye on all activity below. For years, U.S. soldiers and their Afghan counterparts have listened in to Taliban radio communications. The Taliban, knowing their conversations were tapped, would often attempt to mislead snooping Americans, discussing ambushes that never materialized.
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Taliban fighters shrug off NSA surveillance revelations: ‘We knew’ (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2013 OP
Surprised! WovenGems Jun 2013 #1
Wow, you sound more informed then Snowden! Congrats! Did you have the powerpoint? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #3
I remember WovenGems Jun 2013 #6
We have become MuseRider Jun 2013 #2
... xchrom Jun 2013 #4
THAT would make a great MuseRider Jun 2013 #9
i understand your mother. i've turned into such a yenta in my old age. xchrom Jun 2013 #10
I would probably be much the same MuseRider Jun 2013 #11
yes -- wildlife squabbles are of great interest xchrom Jun 2013 #12
Getting up off the floor malaise Jun 2013 #27
Yes! But armed to the hilt n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #24
SMH Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #5
sorry. du isn't 'surprised'. du has commented, debated and anything else you can think about xchrom Jun 2013 #7
OK, once again, if this was 100% common knowledge then why is Snowden in so much trouble? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #8
in short Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #13
all kinds of joe and joette citizen have changed the world. xchrom Jun 2013 #15
He broke National Security Omerta... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #16
This proves that the whistleblower persecutions aren't about national security at all. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #14
+1 xchrom Jun 2013 #17
IMO Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #20
Wonder how many of their fake messages led us to kill innocents with drones? (nt) The Straight Story Jun 2013 #18
Yep, the NSA got all their phone logs, chat messages, match.com emails and vacation Instagrams jsr Jun 2013 #19
match.com!! xchrom Jun 2013 #21
IMO Mr Dixon Jun 2013 #23
Apparently, ProSense Jun 2013 #22
"That's why Osama bin Laden's compound wasn't connected to the Internet" - Octafish n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #25
+1 xchrom Jun 2013 #26
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Jun 2013 #28
WHO DIDN"T KNOW?! uponit7771 Jun 2013 #29
Elites aren't afraid of the terrorists; they're afraid of US. snot Jun 2013 #30

WovenGems

(776 posts)
1. Surprised!
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jun 2013

I was stunned that so many millions of my peers knew not one thing about the NSA. Or it could be they did but love a good conspiracy party. One or the other.

WovenGems

(776 posts)
6. I remember
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jun 2013

When the NSA bought three Cray computers. And just knew they would use those monsters to tap all communications at that time. I waited for an investigation to end up in court that relied on NSA data. Didn't happen. Meaning NSA was a lot like the ULTRA program of WW2. So I didn't fear them in the least.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
2. We have become
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:26 AM
Jun 2013

the Gladys Kravitz of the world. I do not mean this to be funny either, it just popped into my head and seemed appropriate.

Watching everyone, tapping everyone. Seems everyone knew except most of the American public........ABNER!!!

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
9. THAT would make a great
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:37 AM
Jun 2013

avatar these days

Thanks. My mother got to be much like that as she was alone and growing older. It was creepy what she knew about the neighbors.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
10. i understand your mother. i've turned into such a yenta in my old age.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:40 AM
Jun 2013

the least little thing goes on in my neighborhood has me peeking about.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
11. I would probably be much the same
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jun 2013

but living out here in the country, even though I am just outside a little community and have a few neighbors, there is nothing to see. I can tell you what birds have been by or how many trains have come through but nothing on neighbors. Probably for the best.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
5. SMH
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:31 AM
Jun 2013

That is a great illustration of common knowledge, which is why I’m surprised that so many DU folks seem so shocked WTF have people been doing for the last 50 years?

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
7. sorry. du isn't 'surprised'. du has commented, debated and anything else you can think about
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:33 AM
Jun 2013

our shadow government since damn near it's beginnings.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
13. in short
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:47 AM
Jun 2013

That one is easy; he leaked information and went into hiding if you have TS clearance that is a no no. If he was just some dude off street he would get the Alex Jones treatment. Regardless there is nothing Joe Citizen can do to change the State, protest and information leakers think they are going to change the world, “News Flash they are not”. Now if anyone has a better Option I’m all ears.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
15. all kinds of joe and joette citizen have changed the world.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jun 2013

that's some strange invention or projection to say they haven't.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
14. This proves that the whistleblower persecutions aren't about national security at all.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jun 2013

They're about revenge against those who dare to break National Security Omerta, exposing the scam for all to see.

Snowden revealed nothing that would genuinely endanger anyone.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
23. IMO
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:57 AM
Jun 2013

True or not, I’m not seeing that problem with assuming they do track all of us at one point or another instead of believing that we are free to say and do as we please which is not factual.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. Apparently,
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jun 2013
Unlike many Americans, the Taliban was not surprised by the news.


...only some Americans were surprised. Taliban responds to OMG-gate.

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