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Omaha Steve

(99,708 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 06:24 PM Feb 2012

A girl who soared, but longed to belong (Elizabeth Warren)


http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/02/12/girl-who-soared-but-longed-belong/rx59B8AcqsZokclyJXkg7I/story.html

Elizabeth Warren grew up amid the infinite expanse of Oklahoma, the finite expectations of her place and time, and financial pain at home. The lessons of those years still drive her.

By Noah Bierman | Globe Staff

February 12, 2012


VIDEO: http://bcove.me/d5ojwpi2

First in a series of occasional articles examining the life stories and careers of the Massachusetts candidates for US Senate.

OKLAHOMA CITY - The father and daughter had an unspoken arrangement. Her classmates would not see the car. He would drop her off a block away from Northwest Classen High School, so they wouldn’t notice that things had “gone down.’’

For a teenage Elizabeth Warren, then known as Liz Herring, the old off-white Studebaker was the most tangible sign that her family was struggling to maintain the trappings of middle-class life that marked Oklahoma City in the early 1960s.

The air-conditioned bronze Oldsmobile that had once ferried her to high school was gone - lost when the family stopped making payments after her father had a heart attack and got demoted to a job that paid much less.

Her mother had gone back to work to keep the family afloat, but she resented having to do so and wasn’t shy about saying so. Money, or the want of it, was suddenly a source of pain, acid in the air.

FULL story at link.

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A girl who soared, but longed to belong (Elizabeth Warren) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2012 OP
Very interesting and detailed piece. Live and Learn Feb 2012 #1
Welcome to the DU! Omaha Steve Feb 2012 #2
Thank You. nt Live and Learn Feb 2012 #5
I was astonished at what I read. She was ashamed of her background because she felt poor. If virgogal Feb 2012 #3
Why is this astonishing? Compared to most of her high school classmates pnwmom Feb 2012 #6
I grew up worse than that,my father died when I was in kindergarten. My mother worked. I lived in a virgogal Feb 2012 #7
We don't know that she cut them out of her life, do we? pnwmom Feb 2012 #12
I agree. I think the influence of our childhood renate Feb 2012 #8
I had the same reaction you did. Mass Feb 2012 #10
Loved this piece! I shows us that we, who grew up in that time and place in the SW, were CTyankee Feb 2012 #4
This is supposed to be a positive piece? Mass Feb 2012 #9
I also read it in The Boston Globe this A.M. I was stunned---it was like a hit piece. As I virgogal Feb 2012 #11
"Ooze self pity"? I guess people see what they're going to see. pnwmom Feb 2012 #14
I'm still going to support her (there is no choice and Brown is a big no no). Mass Feb 2012 #16
She was a perfectly normal teenager reacting to economic stresses in her family. pnwmom Feb 2012 #13
I am talking about the article, not her. Mass Feb 2012 #15
Did you read the whole article? With a mother who was so embittered pnwmom Feb 2012 #18
I am not questioning Warren here. I am questioning the bias in the article Mass Feb 2012 #19
I support Ms Warren fully Marrah_G Feb 2012 #17
Sounds good but zacherystaylor Feb 2012 #20
 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
3. I was astonished at what I read. She was ashamed of her background because she felt poor. If
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 06:41 PM
Feb 2012

I had grown up the way she did I would have felt affluent.She was ashamed of her house and one of their cars.

And her attitude towards her ex classmates is elititst and snobby.





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pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
6. Why is this astonishing? Compared to most of her high school classmates
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:28 PM
Feb 2012

she was far less well off.

If you had grown up in a situation where your father had lost his job and taken a huge pay cut; your mother was bitter about having to go back to work; and your parents let you know that you might have to leave your high school because of their finances -- and everyone around you seemed much much better off, I doubt that you would have felt "affluent."

That's an adult perspective, thinking about the larger world, not a child's.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
7. I grew up worse than that,my father died when I was in kindergarten. My mother worked. I lived in a
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:53 PM
Feb 2012

cold water flat. No car,ever.

Everyone around me was better off,and some of them are still friends.I did not cut them out of my life.

To live in a single house was my goal in life.

It was a most unflattering article.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
12. We don't know that she cut them out of her life, do we?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:48 AM
Feb 2012

For all we know, some of them could have ostracized her as a debate "nerd."

Lots of people grew up worse than she did. That doesn't mean that -- as a child living in quite ordinary circumstances, with less than most of her classmates -- she should have felt "affluent."

Her family had descended on the economic ladder, and they were constantly worried about falling farther. They were hardly affluent.

renate

(13,776 posts)
8. I agree. I think the influence of our childhood
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 09:32 PM
Feb 2012

... is much more about how we perceived it at the time than how it actually was.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. Loved this piece! I shows us that we, who grew up in that time and place in the SW, were
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 06:42 PM
Feb 2012

not the only young girls and women who had to face this kind of dilemma. It is comforting to me to know that she experienced something I immediately identified with. I was there once and I know what it feels like.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
9. This is supposed to be a positive piece?
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:22 PM
Feb 2012

I dont know, but how does being ashamed of your parents become a plus. Poor baby, she was not as rich as her classmates. It would seem that, with her father having a heart attack, the worry for her father should show. Now, I understand that teenagers could feel this, but you could expect somewhere something that tells us she regrets this. Nothing.

I read the piece this morning and consider it a character assassination going right into the RW memes of class envy, and given the deep love of the Boston Globe for our junior senator, this would not be surprising. What I find more puzzling is why the campaign considers this as positive.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
11. I also read it in The Boston Globe this A.M. I was stunned---it was like a hit piece. As I
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:58 PM
Feb 2012

posted earlier in the thread her life would have been considered well off for me when I was growing up.

The article oozed self pity.

Strange,and I was going to vote for her.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
14. "Ooze self pity"? I guess people see what they're going to see.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:53 AM
Feb 2012

I didn't see that at all -- just empathy for the financial difficulties most families have.

I think you're also not taking into account the effect her mother's anger must have had on her.

From the link at the OP:


“I knew to my bones he was humiliated by what he couldn’t do,’’ she said. “My mother made it clear that he had failed. She was not hesitant about saying any part of this at full throat. She would really hammer him about this and he never, ever, ever fought back, pushed back, said anything. He just pulled more within himself.’’

Warren didn’t intervene. She stayed out of the way, so her mother wouldn’t yell at her. She clenched her teeth so as not to let on that she was scared.

“My mother was really angry,’’ she said. “She felt like she had been cheated. She had made a deal in life and it hadn’t worked out that way.’’

Mass

(27,315 posts)
16. I'm still going to support her (there is no choice and Brown is a big no no).
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 11:37 AM
Feb 2012

There is nothing new in this piece for anybody who actually looked at whom she is. But you could have thought a positive piece would show how she changed, not just who she was as a kid.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
13. She was a perfectly normal teenager reacting to economic stresses in her family.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:52 AM
Feb 2012

I think she was worried, more than ashamed. But virtually all teenagers are unhappily self-conscious at least some of the time, and this carries over to their feelings about the their families.

How do you know she wasn't worried about her father?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
15. I am talking about the article, not her.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 11:04 AM
Feb 2012

She probably was worried, but the article makes her look like a self-centered teen and nothing else. I do not see it as a positive piece. And I do not see this piece playing well in MA, which I suspect is why it was written, given the passive aggressive style the Globe reporters have been using when talking about Democrats. I personally could not care less about what she was like a teen as long as she beats Brown (whose story as a poor kid is worse than hers). She may not have been my dreamed candidate and I wished we actually have had a primary, but she is definitively better than this idiot. But the piece is not good.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
18. Did you read the whole article? With a mother who was so embittered
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:17 PM
Feb 2012

and the whole family afraid of what would happen to them next, how would she have been expected to act?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
19. I am not questioning Warren here. I am questioning the bias in the article
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:32 PM
Feb 2012

Starting by the title "who wanted to belong". Even if the article is factual, the presentation is going to the RW meme of class envy, and presents her as bitter. Yes, I could understand she felt this way, but, just as virgogal, I really thought it was a hit piece when I read this yesterday morning. Feel free to consider it as a positive piece if you want.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
17. I support Ms Warren fully
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 12:06 PM
Feb 2012

I think she "get's it" which is very unusual these days.

Brownie is on his way out.

zacherystaylor

(98 posts)
20. Sounds good but
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 12:38 PM
Feb 2012

I don't doubt that she is much better than Scott Brown but I still have serious doubts about her. She became a shoe in for the nominee thanks to all the attention that she received from the Mass Media and the establishment seems to have shut out all other contenders without much if any input from the majority of the voters before the primary was even held.

I would have no problem with this story if it was also accompanied by a serious effort to adress the major issues that any candidate should be addressing but that isn't happening.

Instead Elizabeth Warren is criticizing the money race and leading the pack at the same time which should raise doubts.

If anyone is interested I went into more detail in Elizabeth Warren is NOT as sincere as she appears!!

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