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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,647 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:30 AM Jun 2013

"It's as Bad as Watergate."

That's because it WAS Watergate. It started 41 years ago last night. Happy anniversary, I guess.

CHRONICLING WATERGATE

June 18, 2013 in City
CHRONICLING WATERGATE

Man’s massive collection of news clippings now available to public
By Kip Hill The Spokesman-Review

Forty-one years ago this week, a story in the New York Times caught the eye of Drake University student J. Paul Blake: A break-in had occurred at the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C., and investigators and journalists alike suspected the burglars had ties to the Richard Nixon administration.
....

Monday marked the 41st anniversary of the Watergate break-in, and now the public can flip through Blake’s collection and relive the first draft of a scandal that felled a president and launched the careers of at least two fledgling journalists.
....

In the clippings, reporters and witnesses to history grapple with the unfolding drama and how to portray Nixon. Cartoonists pull no punches, depicting “Tricky Dick” wrapped in tangles of audio tape. But Franklin B. Smith of the Burlington (Vt.) Free Press blamed the press for going too far in toppling the exalted position of the American presidency, condemning “news leaks, speculations and analyses” as “masquerades that are demonstrably lethal.”

Blake shares their uncertainty after all these years. He praised Nixon for his work opening up China to Western influence, but his moral failings did him in, Blake said. ... “In the long run, I almost feel sorry for the guy,” Blake said. “He did some other great things, but his whole legacy is just ruined by Watergate.”


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Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
1. Watergate was before my time
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:32 AM
Jun 2013

but if it is anywhere close yes the Democratic party has taken a wrong turn to the right. Time to pull the party to the left and I don't care of the corporate Dems whine about it.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
2. In Watergate, if there wasn't taping, Rosemary Woods would have had nothing to erase.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jun 2013

The taping in Watergate actually was the smoking gun and solved partially the crime

Without the tapes, there was nothing.

though, the true meaning of Watergate only recently came out,and it was to cover up the sabatoge Nixon did to the peace talks of 1968.

Nixon enabled the war to last 6 years solely for political benefit of the republican party

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
3. Compared to today's level of outrage it was like the end of Frankenstien, people with pitchforks
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jun 2013

There was real public outrage, Nixon was going to be impeached and it was a sure thing. Compared to today the people were out in the streets with torches and pitchforks. No shit, and they have burned him at the stake if he had been spying on every citizen of the country, rubber-stamp Court or not.

former9thward

(32,088 posts)
9. They didn't have the internet to express their feelings.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jun 2013

No one is in the streets anymore because we use the internet to scream and yell to people who pretty much think like we do.

PatSeg

(47,625 posts)
4. “He did some other great things, but his whole legacy is just ruined by Watergate.”
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jun 2013

But it wasn't just Watergate. He used his office to try and destroy his political enemies. He prolonged the war in Vietnam and caused the deaths of countless soldiers and Vietnamese to win reelection.

No matter how many so-called "great things", he did, had he been allowed to serve out his entire 2nd term, there is no telling how much damage the man could have done. No amount of skill or intelligence could compensate for his broken moral compass.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
5. and still, Reagan was worse
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jun 2013

Nixon was an egomaniac who did all to maintain his personal status. Reagan was different. Reagan was a likable dupe who put in place the destruction of the very fabric of our governance. Reagan's crime was far worse than even Nixon's prolonging of the war against Viet Nam.

PatSeg

(47,625 posts)
7. I agree
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jun 2013

but Reagan was in office for eight years. I think Nixon was capable of far more damage than he's gotten credit for. He just didn't have enough time to do his worst!

I find it funny that when republicans want to blame Democrats for some "scandal", they compare it to something that a republican president did. You don't hear a lot of "worse than" about FDR, JFK, or Bill Clinton's presidency.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
6. this is way way worse than Watergate
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:16 AM
Jun 2013

in Watergate, the center for the opposition in an election was stupidly targeted (kinda hard to believe they didnt have 24/7 camera surveillance at a party headquarters). 'stupidly', because he was going to win anyway

in this situation, every verizon call from every single customer is targeted. it's nearly impossible to not be targeted, no matter how unpolitical and ordinary you are

'Totalitarian' is not an overstatement or hyperbole here

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