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This is something that should take place in every city... (Original Post) Playinghardball Jun 2013 OP
What a great idea! LeftofObama Jun 2013 #1
That's a good idea. HappyMe Jun 2013 #2
Until the first case of anaphylaxis shuts it down jberryhill Jun 2013 #3
Yah, kinda like flowers, eh? There are flowers MineralMan Jun 2013 #7
Then people with such allergies should take precautions Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #8
I just hope they didn't plant any peanuts corkhead Jun 2013 #11
omg! hide your head, under the bed! don't step outside! HiPointDem Jun 2013 #17
What? And be attacked by bed bugs! jberryhill Jun 2013 #29
We welcome the bees in our garden... 4_TN_TITANS Jun 2013 #27
Park SamKnause Jun 2013 #4
Right Friggin on- ruffburr Jun 2013 #5
I made a proposal for that in San Luis Obispo County, CA MineralMan Jun 2013 #6
What was the basis for their liability claim? People falling out of apple trees? Owl Jun 2013 #15
I honestly do not know. MineralMan Jun 2013 #23
or some psycho "injecting" them with something SoCalDem Jun 2013 #24
I like the idea Mosby Jun 2013 #9
People? We have squirrels up here siligut Jun 2013 #12
Yes!! felix_numinous Jun 2013 #10
Excellent! As long as it's implemented with consideration to this: intheflow Jun 2013 #13
I thought of this as well BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #14
Cleveland has set aside a whole bunch of reclaimed empty lots and turned WCGreen Jun 2013 #16
just like in nyc, and after that comes the developers to steal the properties. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #20
i can see fruit trees and berries -- but vegetables = someone to do the gardening. i doubt HiPointDem Jun 2013 #18
Sounds like community service to me. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #21
if cities had money for minimum wage student/homeless jobs they'd be spending it already. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #22
Just throwing up ideas Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #26
When this get crushed, Follow the money Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #19
Fruit trees are necessary... for us and the critters.. SoCalDem Jun 2013 #25
What a great move.... midnight Jun 2013 #28
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Until the first case of anaphylaxis shuts it down
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

Fruit trees are great, but attract bees and wasps. Having them in a park increases the risk to persons who are allergic to bee and wasp stings.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
7. Yah, kinda like flowers, eh? There are flowers
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jun 2013

in most parks. Bees like them, too. Lousy excuse, I think. People with bee and wasp allergies are generally aware of them and take precautions.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
8. Then people with such allergies should take precautions
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jun 2013

Kind of like how people who can't swim probably shouldn't jump into the community pool.

Also, in a world in which bees are dying rapidly, then giving them a safe place with food and pollen is probably a good thing for the planet in addition to humans.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
27. We welcome the bees in our garden...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:16 PM
Jun 2013

Bees working the flowers are so busy I can even pet their backs. They have no interest in us when there's pollen to collect.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
6. I made a proposal for that in San Luis Obispo County, CA
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jun 2013

back in the early 1980s. The response of the Board of Supervisors was: "Too much liability." Phooey!

intheflow

(28,504 posts)
13. Excellent! As long as it's implemented with consideration to this:
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/15/opinion/greedy-gardeners.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130615

By so narrowly defining useful landscapes, the craze to farmify our surroundings has made it all about humans. There’s nothing wrong with a utilitarian view of nature. The problem is that we are ignoring the utility of plants like wildflowers and native ornamentals in favor of imported fruit trees.

All around us, even in cities, there are natural processes at work that we depend on. Although largely overlooked, these “ecosystem services” are critical to the survival of our species.

Pollination is one such service. The transformation from flower to fruit does not happen in a vacuum. Plant sex requires an intermediary, in this case, wild bees. They do the work of spreading pollen from flower to flower — a sperm delivery service. (Though European honeybees were imported to pollinate our crops, our native wild bumblebees and other insects pollinate a significant portion, and may be more productive.)

...

A farm-filled landscape would undermine this critical ecological process. Bumblebees rely on wildflowers for a steady supply of pollen and nectar. But fruit trees bloom for only a few weeks a year. When forests and meadows are lost (to development or farming), places for bees to eat also disappear. These wild bees feed us, but we are not feeding them.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. I thought of this as well
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jun 2013

But many times as I walk around my neighborhood, I think about how because of California's temperate climate, there should be no hungry people here. It seems like there should be no empty lots either, but meadows of wildflowers. Or both. Groves of fruit trees or plots of land to grow vegetables such as the community gardens I've seen in Britain. There is so much land, no one should be hungry.

There is a house the bank foreclosed on and had a guard there for over a year. It's still boarded up but the guard is gone. An elderly man from the apartment complex next door has planted a garden in the front yard to which he brings over buckets of water as presumably the water is turned off. I am so jealous of his lovely tomato and squash plants, already loaded with fruit. His friends all come around and talk and help weed. It makes that boarded up reminder of greed and cruelty just a little softer and more beautiful.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
16. Cleveland has set aside a whole bunch of reclaimed empty lots and turned
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jun 2013

them over to neighborhoods for gardening.

Thee are several restaurants that pride themselves as serving Cleveland Grown products.

There is even a friend of mine who is about to make his first vintage with grapes grown were race riots burst out back in the late sixties.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
18. i can see fruit trees and berries -- but vegetables = someone to do the gardening. i doubt
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jun 2013

cities have budgets for that in their parks departments.

i like the idea, but... where i live there are fruit trees on vacant lots, on the curb area of streets (plum apple and cherry mainly) 7 the fruit so far as i can see just goes to waste, falls on the ground, kids throw it at each other, it rots -- but people don't collect it. berry picking -- lots of wild blackberry around here but few people picking it.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
21. Sounds like community service to me.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jun 2013

for school credits
as misdemeanor punishments
as a way for the homeless or destitute to earn money that day
citizens groups or clubs working on their community image
school groups trying to earn extra money

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
26. Just throwing up ideas
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jun 2013

operative words "throwing up", mental regurgitation.
If there was a strong enough will. there might be a way.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
19. When this get crushed, Follow the money
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jun 2013

I desperately hope I'll be wrong, I really do.

The reasons will be given as protections from the few negatives. Not actual issues, just potential worse case scenarios.
The potential for fantasy problems will be judged to be more valuable than the real world benefits.
When that happens, follow the money. It will lead to vested interests in the food industry.


But you are right. This is a great idea that could be a trial of a possible national effort.

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