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Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:35 AM Jun 2013

Should Comey direct the FBI?

Here is my argument that he should not in today's NYT article reporting on the official appointment:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/22/us/politics/obama-says-comey-will-strike-balance-on-security-and-privacy-at-fbi.html?comments#permid=22

Cliff Arnebeck Columbus, OH

Does the selection of Mr. Comey, who reportedly supported the election of John McCain for President in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012, mean that President Obama feels compelled to tolerate the crimes documented in: 1) "JFK and the Unspeakable" by James Douglass, 2) "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander 3) "Proving Election Fraud" by Richard Charnin and 4) "Scandal" as presented by ABC TV?

The FBI should be investigating the crimes of this and the twentieth centuries, including the crime of obstructing President Obama's first choices so as to restrict his ability to restore the rule of law to the United States.
June 22, 2013 at 8:55 a.m.

Richard Charnin's 2012 book, documenting the systemic red shifting of votes in Presidential and Senatorial elections, is "Matrix of Deceit."

Documentation that having a Rove friendly FBI resulted in the fixing of the FBI investigation of the theft of the 2004 Presidential election appears at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022560634


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Should Comey direct the FBI? (Original Post) Cliff Arnebeck Jun 2013 OP
Obama says it has to be a Republican,only they are good enough. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #1
Protecting Karl Rove's election stealing/political assassination empire Cliff Arnebeck Jun 2013 #9
Not just no but hell no. ACLU statements Catherina Jun 2013 #2
Like Defense, Obama thinks a Republican is the best person for this job. The Link Jun 2013 #3
Definately not byeya Jun 2013 #4
I thought it said "Comedy," and thought, "It doesn't now?!" WinkyDink Jun 2013 #5
I voted No bigwillq Jun 2013 #6
Why not? "Change" has been redefined to mean.... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #7
I should be director of the FBI treestar Jun 2013 #8
Yeah well, Comey has done more for the dems than he has for the repubs. For those who've okaawhatever Jun 2013 #10
Did Comey vote for fascism in 2008 and 2012? Cliff Arnebeck Jun 2013 #11
The call for prosecuting the banksters treestar Jun 2013 #17
Don't know for sure but when it was announced that he was on the short list, some political lawyer okaawhatever Jun 2013 #18
For Christ's sake, Comey is the consummate hack. He supported McCain\Palin in 2008. That by HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #22
Like it matters what we proles think nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #12
Once the truth reaches critical mass, we will have won, and they will have lost. Cliff Arnebeck Jun 2013 #13
It will only matter if millions, and I mean MILLIONS, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #14
The consequences of consciousness Cliff Arnebeck Jun 2013 #19
Perhaps nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #20
When I first read your post I thought it said.... boston bean Jun 2013 #15
Better comedy than crime! Cliff Arnebeck Jun 2013 #16
****Obama's Pick for FBI Defied Bush Over Wiretaps**** Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #21
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
1. Obama says it has to be a Republican,only they are good enough.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:40 AM
Jun 2013

Under no circumstances must a Democrat run the FBI or the Dept of Defense. Unthinkable to the Centrist President, must be GOP or Obama would pass out cold.

Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
9. Protecting Karl Rove's election stealing/political assassination empire
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:58 AM
Jun 2013

From the May 30, 2013 NYT's article on the background of the appointment:

"Mr. Comey, 52, was chosen for the position over the other finalist, Lisa O. Monaco, who has served as the White House’s top counterterrorism adviser since January. Some Democrats had feared that if the president nominated Ms. Monaco — who oversaw national security issues at the Justice Department during the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, last September — Republicans would use the confirmation process as a forum for criticism of the administration’s handling of the attack."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/us/politics/obama-to-pick-james-b-comey-to-lead-fbi.html?pagewanted=all

There was a Democratic candidate for the job, who had the confidence of the President. It really seems to me that the President was intimidated by the fascist Republicans in the Senate who want, at all costs, to preserve and protect Karl Rove's election stealing/political assassination empire.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. Not just no but hell no. ACLU statements
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jun 2013
In late May, James B. Comey's name was floated as President Obama's top choice to succeed Robert Mueller as director of the FBI. As the second-highest ranked Justice Department official during the Bush administration, Comey has gained near mythic status for his opposition to a secret NSA surveillance program at the bedside of his terribly ill boss, Attorney General John Ashcroft. But recent revelations about NSA spying raise questions about what Comey resisted and why, and a closer look at his civil liberties record raises serious concerns. During his time as deputy attorney general, Comey approved or defended some of the worst abuses of the Bush administration: torture, warrantless wiretapping, and the indefinite detention of an American citizen. The ACLU looks at each one individually. President Obama should too before making the nomination official.

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/james-comey-closer-look


The ACLU the links to these excellent articles:

Let's Check James Comey's Bush Years Record Before He Becomes FBI Director

James Comey's Indefensible Defense of Indefinite Detention

Is the Spying Comey Approved More Important Than the Spying He Opposed?

James Comey: Two Thumbs-Up on Waterboarding?

Surely there are non-torture Democrats still available?

How can anything change if it's the same Bush people in key positions?

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
10. Yeah well, Comey has done more for the dems than he has for the repubs. For those who've
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jun 2013

had the time to research him, you might notice he's persona non grata around Bush gop circles. Seeing Comey's actions I wonder how Republican he is. I wonder if he's Republican mainly due to the abortion issue (he's Catholic and has 5 kids). I also hope that Obama is looking at him because he has tremendous experience prosecuting financial crimes. Adelphia and it's managers, he led the indictment of Frank Quattrone. They alleged that in 2000, he urged subordinates to destroy evidence sought by investigators looking into his investment banking practices at Credit Suisse First Boston.[10] In November 2003, he led the "Operation Wooden Nickel", which resulted in complaints and indictments against 47 people involved in foreign exchange trading scams. He also prosecuted ImClone, Martha Stewart, the Gambino crime family. He appointed his former co-prosecutor and good friend as special counsel on the Valarie Plame leak. (We all know how that turned out)

He led a large gun control campaign when he was in Virginia.

He revealed and fired a Federal prosecutor who had been targeting democrats for prosecution.

He signed an amicus brief for the Supreme Court supporting gay marriage.

He testified against Bush for firing the prosecutors during that scandal. He did state that one deserved to be fired but that the others "appear to be motivated by something other than their performance as their performance was good to excellent."

What I find so lovely is that if he does have the opportunity to prosecute bankers or repubs, they can't claim any type of bias or political motivation. LOL. They picked him once, too.

Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
11. Did Comey vote for fascism in 2008 and 2012?
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jun 2013

Thanks for your research.

Am I correct that Comey supported McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012? If so, given that each of them was Karl Rove's candidate, doesn't that make Comey a supporter of fascism, i.e. a government controlled by, and working for, monopolistic global corporations and the billionaire bandits?

Doesn't that mean that Comey as FBI Director would turn a blind eye to, and suppress, the open and notorious theft of inheritance from the New Deal, rampant political assassinations, and systemic red shifting of votes necessary for Fascist Republicans to have a chance of winning any elections?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. The call for prosecuting the banksters
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jun 2013

seems to have a friend in this one!

I would love it if that happened.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
18. Don't know for sure but when it was announced that he was on the short list, some political lawyer
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jun 2013

types said that both of his Obama's choices were extremely experienced in litigating. Both I guess had roles as prosecutors. There is still the issue of whether we could charge bank officials without closing the bank. I know the d o j found a way to criminally charge a UBS subsidiary in Taiwan. The subsidiary was a separate bank so the American branches could stay open and we could still get criminal charges.
Maybe, maybe. There have been some pretty decent prosecutions of banker-like folks. They just haven't been tied to "the big one".

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
22. For Christ's sake, Comey is the consummate hack. He supported McCain\Palin in 2008. That by
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jun 2013

itself should immediately and permanently disqualify him from holding any high office in a reality-based government.

Oh, yeah, Comey also reluctantly approved the Bush torture regime. Wonder if anyone on the Senate Judiciary Commitee will have the courage to nail him on that?

Comey is an insult to any thinking person's intelligence.

But what the fuck: we've also got Brennan at CIA, Alexander at NSA and Clapper as DNI. What's one more torture-enabling fuckwad?

Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
13. Once the truth reaches critical mass, we will have won, and they will have lost.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jun 2013

It matters a lot.

Truth about election stealing and political assassinations is out! ABC's Scandal series has popularized this news.

The obvious assassination of Michael Hastings strikes me as an act of desperation on the part of those who want to block and suppress this news. Hastings was working on a story on the same subject that is reported in current issue nation magazine concerning the prosecution of Barrett Brown, another journalist, further exposing the crimes of our century.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. It will only matter if millions, and I mean MILLIONS,
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jun 2013

take to the streets, in spite of the consequences and engage in a national strike.

Otherwise, it is part of the scenery.

Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
19. The consequences of consciousness
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:48 AM - Edit history (1)

I am not sure if taking to the streets is necessary to turn the tide.

When their innocence myth becomes the favorite joke of the comedians and a plain truth-teller like Elizabeth Warren becomes the favorite for President in 2016, their hay days are over.

Have you seen Scandal? It shows Karl Rove admitting to stealing the Presidential election and arranging for political assassinations. It's the most popular series on television.

In more subtle fashion Scandal portrays the U.S. Supreme Court as having destroyed itself.

The covert fascists cannot continue to get away with super grand theft and political assassinations once the general public is on to them.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. Perhaps
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jun 2013

But history tells me it takes concerted popular action. What you are describing are the old jokes of soviet Russia, a way to talk about it and release steam, my personal favorite and it applies today, involves blind newborn kittens.

Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
16. Better comedy than crime!
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

The Keystone cops for comedy would be better than having a counsellor for the Mafioso directing the FBI. Anyone who supports fascism in the United States is a treasonous criminal in my book.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
21. ****Obama's Pick for FBI Defied Bush Over Wiretaps****
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jun 2013


Obama's Pick for FBI Defied Bush Over Wiretaps

(AP) – President Obama is preparing to nominate former Bush administration official James Comey to head the FBI. Three people with knowledge of the selection said Obama planned to nominate Comey, who was the No. 2 in George W. Bush's Justice Department. Comey became a hero to Democratic opponents of Bush's warrantless wiretapping program when he refused for a time to reauthorize it. Bush revised the surveillance program when confronted with the threat of resignation by Comey and current FBI Director Robert Mueller, who is stepping down in September. Comey's selection was first reported by NPR and was not expected to be announced for several days at least.

In stunning testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2007, Comey said he thought Bush's no-warrant wiretapping program was so questionable that Comey refused for a time to reauthorize it. The White House, he said, recertified the program without the Justice Department's signoff, allowing it to operate for about three weeks without concurrence on whether it was legal. That led to a standoff with White House officials at the bedside of ailing Attorney General John Ashcroft. A day after the March 10, 2004, incident at Ashcroft's bedside, Bush ordered changes to the program to accommodate the department's concerns.

Read more: http://www.newser.com/story/168718/obamas-pick-for-fbi-defied-bush-over-wiretaps.html


He's not as evil as some people here are making him out to be.
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