WHO ASK QUESTIONS and STILL VOTE...(although the "meme is" that WE don't Vote!)

It get's to that point with me reading stuff here these days. If I wanted to be a "Free Republican" (FREEPER) then...I could do no better than to see what "passes for Left" on this site these days.

Far cry from 53% of America. And a lot of conservatives voted for him.

We had to pick one...

Republicans.

I don't recall anything similar in the past.

I suspect that the polling data points to that, but I haven't seen it.

Is based on a lack of historic understanding. This is an imperial presidency, has nothing to do with te occupant.

It started with Truman and it's high time we realize this. Empire is why we can't have nice things.

from that historical blindness we continue to miss so much that happens right under our nose and in front of our eyes, it has become traitorous anymore to point these things out. Indoctrination is complete.

and the economic machine. He either choose or was told to keep them intact. Appears to me that it is bigger than him.

I'm interesting in hearing what the Obama jackalopes have to say about all this.

RLOL...this is funny.

right?

Put on the big boy undies.

If I couldn't see your post count and membership date, I'd assume you are a mole/troll. What Progressive/Lib/Dem calls Obama "dear leader?" that Freepers/Cave Dwellar shit.

Ones that have grown tired of his bullshit and see him for the fraud he is.

its like a window opened and i could see things so much clearer, i feel uplifted and strangely secure.
bravo!

My friend was there running social media. She said the mainstream press showed up because they wanted to catch some Progressive outrage so they could push their Obama = Bush meme. Most of the people there are activists and campaign workers who are strategizing on how to get more liberals/ Progressives elected from school boards on up. Howard Dean and DFA had seminars on his 50 state strategy for 2014. Most of the
attendees knew what CBS etc. were up to and weren't going to give them the satisfaction. This country has a lot of problems. Our party has a lot of problems. Handing this country over to the Republicans won't solve any of it. They addressed someofthe problems of our party through seminars and panels not outrage and press was extremely disappointed.

Time is better spent bolstering the state parties so we can take governorships and legislatures back, thus allowing progressives to finally deep-six the ALEC agenda.

I live in NC and the ALEC driven Republican agenda is destroying it.

embraced and utilized by this administration? Maybe Obama should offer
a photo op with Dean, Grayson, Bernie Sanders, any of the elected officials
people like me trust. That should pacify us...right, that's the ticket.

No wonder this article and the other one saying that the liberal activists have fully rejected the fringe elements that equate Obama to Bush are going down like lead balloons in this forum.

When you go out and talk with fellow Democrats in different parts of the country, they don't sound like the folks here on DU who seem to spend most of their time outraged against the administration.

Progressives are working to get people elected. They're trying very hard to flip some of these states like Michigan and Wisconsin and take back the House (even though gerrymandering will make it difficult). This years conference was the largest ever and they trained a lot of new activists. Netroots 2014 will be held in Detroit next summer.

Progressives arent at war with the administration. Progressives are at war with issues, policies and laws that are killing the middle and working classes. If that reflects badly on the Admin, then so be it, but it isnt about Pres Obama.

Tell me if this isnt the way some are thinking. Pres Obama is honest and has a wonderful family. I doubt that any progressive would disagree. Therefore any questions or criticisms of any issues government related are direct affronts to Pres Obama's character. Wait, what? No progressive would buy that. No decent Democrat should buy that.

the administration. In fact seems to me that when people said that Michael Hasting's accident was suspicious, some started in their defense of the administration. Even to the point of being disrespectful of Mr. Hastings within hours of his death.

this conference. The progressive activist solution is to elect more progressives. Equating the leader of the Democratic party with Bush will not convince people to vote for us. They had no problem with heckling Pelosi but name-calling is counter-productive. Really, anybody who doesn't hold their government accountable is likely to end up with an authoritarian state. I don't like the surveillance state either or the TPP or chained CPI.

Sounds like they have their feet on the ground.

What we have now is a Democratic party that knows that we don't want to turn the country over to Republicans. So they settle and make us settle for "Not as bad as the other guys" which means basically the Democratic party of 2013 is the Republican party of 1992 on a lot of issues (primarily economics, healthcare, education, poverty, income inequality, etc).

So how do we not "hand the country over to Republicans" but also push the party leftward back to some sense of reasonable, progressive sanity. How do we get them to make the case for progressive values and policies, especially since when detailed poll after detailed poll shows that when asked the specific questions on policies (rather than simply a "are you liberal or conservative&quot that people support those policies.

Especially when so many people in the party continue to take a "SHHHHH!! Speak no ill of our leaders!!!!" approach. Look where that got Republicans. They kept living inside of a bubble and rather than making sure their party and leader (Bush) expressed popular opinions in an easily digestable way (not that they had any, but still), they took the approach of everyone covering their ears and going "LALALALALALALALI CAN"T HEAR YOU!!!!!" and simply shouting down any dissent.

That's what our party is doing now and it's going to ruin a golden opportunity of finally knocking out a horrible, out of touch, out of step, idiotic Republican party. But instead of doing what is needed and contrasting our great policies with theirs, we have a leader who is too concerned with bipartisanship above all else, including what is good policy.

to me.

a closed club. Only those that worship are allowed. A fact that doesnt bother me in the least but I saw the OP in Greatest Threads and wanted to discuss it.

Plez, you think I would waste my time "stalking" BOG members? I think it's great that you have such a place to be free from challenge.

It's some kind of MEME that seems to be a "TP" by folks who have an object in mind in trying to paint Democratic Activists with some kind of "Somethin?" are you all raving about.

If you have some kind of issue POST AN OP and GET REPLIES! Otherwise this is just one of those "paid for profit" Internet Memes promoted by those who are getting paychecks or other compensation to keep posting this crap on this website.

What Gives here? NOT THAT ANY OF YOU WOULD REPLY!

Of course...I wouldn't.

but it would be silly to think that "paid folks" aren't out here on the Internets (lol's for GB)...given the new NSA Revelations. That would be quite naive.

if anyone is getting paid it looks like they are paid to make obama look bad by making a complete mess of defending him.
or the chinese are paying them to make the NSA look bad, otherwise i cant make any sense of it.

A segment of DU has really lost themselves in this issue.

defend their president to the end regardless.

Bravo!

principles and you use asinine emoticons.

If you are banking that Pres Obama is going to stop or even slow our dissent into fascism, you are in denial. The economic and intelligence agency leaders are the same as the previous administration. I wonder why? Maybe Pres Obama had no choice. Maybe it's bigger than himself. Clapper is a lying Republican that is supported by the corporatist apologists among us.

You and your friends use of silly emoticons is so very telling.

We are in a class war. Do you honestly think Pres Obama is on our side?

Moderate Republicans from the 80s.

Even Obama compared himself to a "moderate Republican of the 1980s".

and you have to ask why?

The OP is saying that liberals agree with Pres Obama. This is an attempt to drive people farther to the right, right into the hands of Christie or Boosh III.

By the way, is Sarah Jones pushing a centrist agenda?

they are attempting to redefine liberals , but failing miserably in doing so!

Dean, Warren, Sanders, Grayson, Wyden, liberals.

There is one?

"Liberals who Vainly Hoped He'd Be Liberal, But Changed their Expectations Once He Made His Cabinet Picks." wouldnt fit.

Centrists who believe that Obama is infallible, and that anything he does is more important and necessary than what is good for the country.

For instance, if Obama were to cut Social Security benefits for severely disabled retirees in half, Obama centrists would applaud this action as wise and necessary.

I didn't know you had been kicked out of that group until today.