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ProSense

(116,464 posts) Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:25 PM Jun 2013

Putin Says Dealing With Snowden Issue ‘Like Shearing A Pig’

Putin Says Dealing With Snowden Issue ‘Like Shearing A Pig’

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that he'd rather not intervene in the case of Edward Snowden, who is wanted in the U.S. on charges of espionage for leaking National Security Agency secrets, and likened navigating the diplomacy of the situation to "shearing a pig."

"I'd prefer not to deal with this issue at all—it's like shearing a pig—too much squeaking, too little wool," Putin said during a news conference in Turku, Finland, as quoted by the Wall Street Journal.

Putin announced Snowden was free to transit out of Russia, adding "the sooner he chooses his final destination, the better it will be for us and for him."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/putin-says-dealing-with-snowden-issue-like-shearing

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Putin Says Dealing With Snowden Issue ‘Like Shearing A Pig’ (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP

I think the Chinese reached the same conclusion pscot Jun 2013 #1

I take "too little wool" to mean that his alleged bombshells turned out to be zilch Recursion Jun 2013 #4

The various intelligence agencies already have good handle on each others activities FarCenter Jun 2013 #6

Or Putin got what he wants and is now done with Snowden. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #7

Oh yeah? The Corrector Aug 2013 #13

I think it's a simple risk reward calculation pscot Jun 2013 #8

That is my new favorite simile Recursion Jun 2013 #2

That's pretty funny snooper2 Jun 2013 #3

Indeed, he had nothing foreign governments did not already know. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #5

I think you have it the other way around Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #9

"Shearing a pig".. how's that make ya feel, Cha Jun 2013 #10

The cats become the mouse! Yikes! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #11

Putin's thinking 'you're asking a KGB man to solve a CIA problem?!?!?' markiv Jun 2013 #12

pscot

(21,024 posts)

1. I think the Chinese reached the same conclusion

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:30 PM

Jun 2013

Snowden is a uniquely American problem. Why mess with perfection?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

4. I take "too little wool" to mean that his alleged bombshells turned out to be zilch

Reply to pscot (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:32 PM

Jun 2013

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)

6. The various intelligence agencies already have good handle on each others activities

Reply to Recursion (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:36 PM

Jun 2013

Hacktivists are just bothersome for everyone.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

7. Or Putin got what he wants and is now done with Snowden. n/t

Reply to Recursion (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:52 PM

Jun 2013

The Corrector

(22 posts)

13. Oh yeah?

Reply to ProSense (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:08 PM

Aug 2013

Tell me more.

pscot

(21,024 posts)

8. I think it's a simple risk reward calculation

Reply to Recursion (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:19 PM

Jun 2013

If the Russians try to "debrief" Snowden, they become the issue. The PR damage then shifts from us to them; the charge of espionage gains credence and they get almost nothing out of it. The advantage lies in letting Snowden go unmolested. We're twisting slowly in the wind. That suits Vladimir Putin just fine.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

2. That is my new favorite simile

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:31 PM

Jun 2013

Good image.

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

3. That's pretty funny

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:32 PM

Jun 2013

LOL

Get out of my country squirt before mother Russia leak on you!

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)

5. Indeed, he had nothing foreign governments did not already know.

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:34 PM

Jun 2013

Of course that was never the point. He revelead the extent of the wholesale spying on american citizens that was taking place.

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

9. I think you have it the other way around

Reply to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:23 PM

Jun 2013

We new about mass phone record collection in 2006, but we didn't know the exact targets the US hacked in foreign countries. Snowden gave specific IP addresses.

Cha

(297,705 posts)

10. "Shearing a pig".. how's that make ya feel,

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 11:30 PM

Jun 2013

Leaker Snowden? All that stuff you're sneaking around the world and Putin reduces you to a shearing a pig. What he doesn't think you're hot shit?! But, it's Putin.. you know you love him and hate our President Obama.

sheshe2

(83,926 posts)

11. The cats become the mouse! Yikes!

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:59 AM

Jun 2013

Analysts said Snowden could be useful for a Cold War-style spy swap or as a propaganda tool for Russia, which frequently accuses the United States of violating the principles of freedom and democracy that it tries to press on others.

Korolkov predicted the Kremlin will tread carefully. "Russia is not at all interested in entering into a conflict with such a geopolitical opponent and political partner as the United States," he said.

markiv

(1,489 posts)

12. Putin's thinking 'you're asking a KGB man to solve a CIA problem?!?!?'

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:10 AM

Jun 2013

'talk about gall!'

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