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RAEFORD A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious.
The girls turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that day.
The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs including in-home day care centers to meet USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.
When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items, child care providers must supplement them with the missing ones.
The girls mother who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation said she received a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a healthy lunch would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case $1.25.
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria-nuggets.html
What the heck?
Just a quick edit. This came to me via Facebook so use all appropriate suspicion.
madaboutharry
(40,221 posts)Turkey= meat
Cheese = milk
Bread = grain
Banana, apple juice = two servings of a fruit or vegetable
Someone is really stupid.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)elleng
(131,129 posts)benld74
(9,910 posts)lunches must consist of
one serving of meat,
one serving of milk,
one serving of grain, and
two servings of fruit or vegetables,
even if the lunches are brought from home.
The kid's lunch consisted of
turkey and cheese sandwich, Here is the 1 meat, 1 milk and 1 grain
banana, here is fruit #1
potato chips, and this was only extra from home
apple juice here is fruit #2
The STate employee must have been from the state of confusion! The mother was right!
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)cheese is dairy, bread from the sandwich is a grain, banana and apple juice are fruits. It doesn't matter whether you eat or drink a fruit or veggie. What do they do with students who have allergies? My daughter could not tolerate dairy, soy and gluten.
Never heard this on Fox, but it seems that school employee needs a course on what foods are what.
Sorry, mean to say turkey.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)The local school district's menu is allegedly "peanut free" but it isn't really--if you dig into the details, a lot of the things use products that were "manufactured in a facility which also processes peanuts". My husband and I call those "the weasel words"--was it made on equipment that handles peanuts? Was it made in the same building? Were the peanuts handled in a building half-a-mile away in some enormous complex? Who the fuck knows? About the only school lunch she can safely eat is the cheeseburger with baked fries.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)We had to be alerted to the allergies these kids had. My daughter could only tolerate goats milk. Back then I had to make it from powder, so I only gave it to her at home. I didn't like giving it to her in a thermos and risk it spoiling. Of course, schools weren't going to supply something like that.
Today my daughter buys goats milk, butter, and cheeses. She buys a soy substitute when she has sushi, and gluten free cereals. Forgot that allergy. It's all still with her as an adult.
IamK
(956 posts)I assume this story was from Nazi Germany in the 40s?
Baclava
(12,047 posts)wtf?
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Jeebus.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)A tuna sandwich or rice and beans, would be the same as a serving of "meat" and a grain. If that school employee couldn't understand turkey and cheese sandwich, imagine if she saw rice and beans?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Alameda
(1,895 posts)are these the same three "chicken nuggets" made out of pink slime with ammonia and who knows what else was in them? I would be very very upset if my child's food were replaced like that.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)still on the bone was served as the healthy lunch at a school I worked in about 10 years ago. Once in a while to the HIGH SCHOOL students they would serve chicken nuggets but not on a regular basis. The "fries" started out raw and were baked in an oven. More like steak fries.
My daughter used to call both taco meat and chicken nuggets "mystery meats". Ah, they KNOW.
Liora24
(34 posts)I think this is all a scam in order to make students pay for "school lunches". It is usually republican politicians who have the ties to the companies who provide school lunches. They are trying to force students to buy their junk which is not healthy and which probably costs a lot more!
Also what if someone is vegetarian?! I have been vegetarian since my last to years of high school and I wonder if the schools would have forced me to eat meat if I was attending today.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)There are nutritional guidelines for preschoolers. I got a note once from my son's preschool that his lunch didn't meet the nutritional guidelines. I asked the supervisor about it and told her what was in the lunch. She said it did meet guidelines. The young girl that wrote the note was in the room. She blushed, apologized and said, "I'm still learning". We were all calm and friendly, discussing the note and nobody got upset. I'm sure the young girl will remember that peanut butter is a protein and 100% fruit juice counts for one of the fruit/veggie servings. I'm glad I didn't get upset and call my representative for crying out loud... it wasn't a big deal at all. I'm glad they have some nutritional guidelines or people like my sister would send doritos and pepsi.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)as another poster mentioned her child's allergy. It goes beyond the kid actually eating it. With a severe allergy to peanuts they cannot be anywhere near a person eating it, touching something that might have peanut residue on it, etc. This is a very severe allergy. I know it's unfortunate for the other kids who can't eat it in school, but a child can stop breathing and go into cardiac arrest from this allergy.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)that states it is a peanut free zone. Luckily, my son's preschool doesn't have any children with such allergies or I am sure they would post the notice as well. They send home a list of acceptable "snacks" which each parent must provide for the class once a month and peanut butter crackers is listed as on alternative. My kid doesn't eat much meat - by his choice. So PB is the best alternative for me for protein. If he attended a peanut free preschool, I would probably just send a lunch meat that I knew he would eat along with extra string cheese or something else for protein.
sammytko
(2,480 posts)I don't trust the story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke_Foundation
John Locke Foundation employs research, journalism, and outreach programs to transform government through competition, innovation, personal freedom, and personal responsibility. JLF seeks a better balance between the public sector and private institutions of family, faith, community, and enterprise."[1] The organization advocates lowering taxes, decreasing spending on social welfare programs, and encouraging free markets. John Hood is its current president.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Facebook. So take it with suspicion like anything else.
sammytko
(2,480 posts)stuff sent via facebook is generally overblown
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Thanks for the suggestion!
sammytko
(2,480 posts)Trying to buy up North Carolina for the repubs.
Ter
(4,281 posts)The mother can pack a hot dog, potato chips, and a Pepsi for her daughter, it's none of the school's damn business.
sammytko
(2,480 posts)Art Pope and the John Locke Foundation of N. Carolina are behind this. He spent millions to take over the state lege.
Planted stories like this make us look bad.
Here is an expose on Art Pope - friend of the Koch brothers.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_mayer#ixzz1ZjumziCX
flvegan
(64,416 posts)And kids who are vegetarian or vegan must be shipped off to Gitmo under that protocol, I guess.
Final word: morons, you aren't nutritionists and know nothing about it. Shut up and go away.
saras
(6,670 posts)The real world...
School lunches must meet the applicable recommendations of the Dietary Guidelines for Americans, which recommend that no more than 30 percent of an individual's calories come from fat, and less than 10 percent from saturated fat. Regulations also establish a standard for school lunches to provide one‐third of the Recommended Dietary Allowances of protein, Vitamin A, Vitamin C, iron, calcium, and calories. School lunches must meet Federal nutrition requirements, but decisions about what specific foods to serve and how they are prepared are made by local school food authorities.
from http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/AboutLunch/NSLPFactSheet.pdf
more documents at http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/
EVEN given the school's interpretation, the only change that would have FIT the guidelines is to replace the apple juice with milk. The turkey sandwich contains a serving of meat and a serving of grain, which the nuggets don't. It's probably healthier meat, and lower in fat and chemicals too. What's more, the relevant authority agrees.
from the article itself...
With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, thats the dairy, said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division. It sounds like the lunch itself wouldve met all of the standard. The lunch has to include a fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.
Sounds like a stupid person on a power trip. Or, to be gracious, someone ignorant enough to be unaware of the Dunning-Kruger effect, in a job that's far over their head.