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WTF! Spy time. He has added China to the list! Desperation makes for strange bedfellows.. I believe he has "contacts" unsavory no doubt, in Hong Kong. Just a hunch based on his decision to go there and how FAST they managed to arrange a protest movement for him.
As the President of Ecuador Rafael Correa said today:
"He's a SPY. He's been spying for a long time."
This was after speaking with Joe Biden.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324436104578580640258516774.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/world-news/1011062/snowden-slams-obama-as-asylum-list-revealed/
The 19 countries asked to offer asylum to Edward Snowden have been revealed - as the whistleblower accused Barack Obama of "deception".
Requests have been handed to Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, Switzerland and Venezuela.
Delivered to an official at the Russian consulate at Sheremetyevo Airport in Moscow on Monday night, the pleas follow those previously made to Ecuador and Iceland.
The list emerged after Mr Snowden accused the US President of denying him a right to asylum and of putting political pressure on countries from which he has requested refuge.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Well, how about that!
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)azylum wiht trial
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)is supposed to let him get asylum somewhere or else he's a big, bad meanie! Or something.
He has the maturity of a toddler.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)the leaker, as in diapers!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The NERVE of them!
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)he's just on the lam, not convicted. whoever heard of revoking a fugitive's passport? - and yeah, unilaterally at that. I mean why weren't Ron Paul and Julian Assange allowed to vote on it?
we are living in a police state.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)And I have a feeling he soon will.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)are kind of a vacation paradise for a foreigner.
I think Kazakstan should get him!
Chan790
(20,176 posts)as the smartest goat-herder in Turkmenistan.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)What will you do if government comes for your guns?
Should Obama be impreached?
Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/
Cha
(297,799 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I have the feeling this is a guy who has, for all his inexplicable security clearances, never really had to deal with many real world consequences. Until now.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)And all the whining in the world for a return to his "normal" life cannot be blamed on Pres. Obama. He took his chances, he fled the country, and shared information with nations that we already don't have the best relationship with. He's gonna need to put on his big boy panties, and place the blame for his current status squarely on the people who manipulated him.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)compared to high school, it's that there are no more cliques. With all the classes at different times and with a much larger student body, it is harder for there to be cliques and for a handful of the "cool" crowd to dominate the campus. Also, there's the fact that there are no guards blocking people from going home or going to the bathroom whenever they want to in college like at public schools.
treestar
(82,383 posts)What were the criteria that spawned it?
Why not Australia, Canada, New Zealand? Why Finland and Norway but not Sweden and Denmark? Nicaragua but not Costa Rica or Panama? Oh and he forgot Ecuador.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)with the USA maybe?
Nicaragua I understand, they're left leaning.
Ecuador threw him under the bus today.
Australia, Canada, New Zealand.. US buddies and the Assange connection in Australia.
Basically, who knows but Assange and Sarah Hastings were probably up all night concocting the list.
treestar
(82,383 posts)that seemed to be behind the change of mind.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)"Strictly speaking, Mr Snowden spied for some time". This was after a reporter asked if he'd like to meet Snowden and he said no, not particularly.
This came after the conversation with Joe Biden. I wonder if the administration knows more about Snowden. That's why he's extra desperate to get asylum.
Of course they have everyone wired so, lol, they should know what's up.
Correa was bending over backwards for him and angry with the USA, now uninterested in Snowden.
Really wondering what is known about Snowden and if he is a "spy" in the sense that he worked with others who are more insidious.
treestar
(82,383 posts)or re-raises that question he may have been a Chinese agent all along.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Or is it a really grand conspiracy?
Reminds me of the old saying "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence"
MADem
(135,425 posts)He spied for the Russkies for a couple of decades. Passed them all sorts of damaging information that negatively affected our security posture.
He also was a "fine upstanding member of the community," super religious, went to mass every single day of life, was a member of Opus Dei....and liked to be WATCHED. He wired up his house so his pals could watch him having sex (and his wife wasn't clued in on his little amusement). He was a busy boy on the internet when it came to sex chat. He also had a thing for strippers/prostitutes.
A real charmer. I imagine his family is just so proud of him, as he rots in jail...!
You take the ones you can get; you figure they might get burned eventually.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)that Googling "extradition treaties with US" and "layovers from Moscow" would have. And he didn't know those. Not to mention "do I get to keep my passport if I'm indicted.?"
longship
(40,416 posts)Maybe they could provide him asylum. "I could be out fucking penguins with Jacques Cousteau".*
*Obscure cultural allusion: Miracle Mile
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)(He'd be looking for dancers there) nuck nuck
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Verry interesting.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Cha
(297,799 posts)mind?
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)with the Chinese". Oh yes he did!
He must mean Hong Kong but we know that's not much of a dividing line.
I really think he's thick as thieves with some hackers or shadowy figures
over there. Though we know he's incompetent that doesn't mean he
wasn't set up with people, maybe just anonymous or wikileaks hacker
sympathizers, but who knows exactly who they might be.
Anyone can put on a mask, would he notice if the difference, would he
care, that's the particular blindness dear Snowden suffers.
Snow blindness!
Joe Biden seems to have more goods on him. Now even Correa won't go
near Snowden. Considering we spy everywhere I'd say there's a good
chance we know more than is being told about this guy and his friends!
Cha
(297,799 posts)got in on this.. Pres Obama issued this from Senegal..
Obama: No wheeling or dealing to extradite SnowdenRead more: Obama: No wheeling or dealing to extradite Snowden
DAKAR, SenegalThe United States won't be scrambling military jets or engaging in high-level diplomatic bartering to get National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden extradited to the U.S., President Barack Obama said Thursday.
Dismissing him as "a 29-year-old hacker," Obama sought to downplay the international chase for Snowden, lowering the temperature of an issue that has already raised tensions between the U.S. and uneasy partners Russia and China.
Obama said the damage to U.S. national security has already been done and his top focus now is making sure it can't happen again.
Obama said such matters are routinely dealt with at a law-enforcement level, calling Snowden's extradition "not exceptional from a legal perspective." He said the U.S. has a wide-ranging economic relationship with China that shouldn't be dwarfed by the hunt for one fugitive, and that the U.S. has had "useful conversations" with Moscow over efforts to return Snowden to the U.S. Putin has called Snowden a "free man" and has refused to turn him over to Washington.
http://www.denverpost.com/hochman/ci_23550372/obama-no-wheeling-or-dealing-extradite-snowden#ixzz2Xrm7cSAe
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)it is another example of what a dumbass the guy is. Shouldn't he have done that when he was, you know, IN China?
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)or Ecuador where he'd look like less of a Chinese spy.
He sure is looking suspicious, even if desperate it's a mistake
to ask for asylum in China. It was also a mistake to ask for it
in Russia.
Taft_Bathtub
(224 posts)Then again we all know who is going to pay for Obama's presidential library.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)this, because I'm one of the millions of small donors. He won't need Wall St for his library, all he'll have to do is ask.
Taft_Bathtub
(224 posts)Obama was funded by bundlers, just like Bush and every other presidential candidate.
http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politics/obamas_small_donor_myth.php
Big Money still runs politics, unfortunately, and is a predictor of how a president will act once in office. In Obama's case, it was giving the banks a get out of jail free card.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Taft_Bathtub
(224 posts)If you mean Wall Street, sure. They were "offended" by Obama's speeches. Mitt Romney didn't even pretend he was their puppet.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)I'd hardly call his work unbiased. He's a Naderite, and the Breitbart for the liberal left. And it is no myth that I donated my ass off, both in '08 & '12. Big money, as you call it, came from small donors. Change the record, that one's worn out.
Taft_Bathtub
(224 posts)You can donate all you want, it'd take tens of thousands of individuals like you donating $200 just to match one bundler.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/
Small Indiv Contrib $233,215,440
Large Indiv Contrib $489,660,089
MADem
(135,425 posts)Eddie needs to step up his game.
I'll bet Pootie Poot will get back that arms dealer we have of his, after all this is over.
I can't believe that assclown thinks HE's the only one who can apply pressure to get his way.
Jerk. If Correa says he's a spy, Correa got a trade deal renewed!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Yes he was. Formerly in the employ of the US government.
- Apparently his puke reflexes aren't strong enough......
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)BOG PERSON
(2,916 posts)and from north korea's pov it would be such a glorious diss to the americans
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)And Kim Jong Un would laugh his ass off at the US demanding extradition.
"Sure thing Obama...just as soon as you send back all our defectors!"
AlinPA
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