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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 12:46 PM Jul 2013

Google Barely Shows Real Search Results on Google.com Now



Google it. Everyone who has ever connected to the Internet knows what that means. But should it really mean use Google to search for/find something on the Internet? Or should it be a term for being bombarded with ads and white space when you're looking for something. Google.com's search results have all just become links to Google's own services.

Tutorspree analyzed how much space Google dedicates to its search results page and found that on a 13-inch MacBook Air screen, only 13% is dedicated to results (with those results usually being Wikipedia or Yelp). 29% of the page is Google AdWords, 14% is Google's navigation bar and 7% is links to Google Maps. The rest is Google's iconic white space.

Local searches are even worse because for one, Google automatically determines what's a local search and secondly, there's only 7% of immediate screen real estate dedicated to actual search results. What's amazing is that mobile searches are probably the absolute worst—it takes four page scrolls to get an 'organic' search result.

Google will always be indispensable as a service, no one doubts that, and it'll always feel the quickest but it's become a wee bit more complicated and self-serving than old Google. Google.com is just a way to round us up to use more Google.
http://gizmodo.com/google-barely-shows-real-search-results-on-google-com-n-652306299
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Google Barely Shows Real Search Results on Google.com Now (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2013 OP
And it's 100% free. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #1
Unlike those pay search engines. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #3
Exactly. Don't like it? Don't use it. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #4
Sounds like another commercial for BING! liberal N proud Jul 2013 #2
If you search for "saturn" you get zero advertisements. cbdo2007 Jul 2013 #5
A decade ago I could find MANY more results with Netscape. Academic, instead of commercial, too. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #6
This kind of helps in firefox (chrome and IE too I guess). Pholus Jul 2013 #7
DuckDuckGo is way better. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #8
I agree. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #12
link KurtNYC Jul 2013 #16
Duckduckgo or Ixquick madokie Jul 2013 #9
I switched to Bing a few years ago, and think the results are superior to Google AndyA Jul 2013 #10
I use ask.com nt AnotherDreamWeaver Jul 2013 #11
I put the same Google search every day for 9 years with no result, first day with Bing and Bingo! 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #13
"Real" search results =/= only organic search results. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #14
When I google "auto mechanic" I get a very nice page of results gristy Jul 2013 #15
Only if you're too inept to SCROLL. Xithras Jul 2013 #17

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
5. If you search for "saturn" you get zero advertisements.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jul 2013

They can scroll down you know. Also, what do they expect searching for "auto mechanic"?

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
8. DuckDuckGo is way better.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

And cuter. And not surveiled (they don't keep any history, so they don't have any to turn over).

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. Duckduckgo or Ixquick
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jul 2013

is where I go, I set my preferences where no cookies are allowed. Only DU has a cookie on my computer right now. When I go to ebay for instance I have it set so I allow a cookie for session only. Once I close out ebay the cookie is gone. I find this to be the best way to not have to put up with a lot of bullshit while on the internet.
I specifically have google blocked from putting a cookie on my computer. I like it that way too.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
10. I switched to Bing a few years ago, and think the results are superior to Google
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jul 2013

For those who don't know, Google's AdWords division sends out messages to website owners advising them they'd make more money if they'd put more ads on their site.

At the same time, Google's Search division penalizes sites for having too many ads--regardless if they're Google ads or not.

Google has made too many decisions that I feel are VERY unfair to webmasters, so I don't use Google for search any longer. Last year, websites were removed from Google's search index because there were bad links pointing to those sites from "bad" sites. Google just assumed the owner of the site was responsible for those links, so it penalized their sites. No questions, no chance to correct...nothing.

I know of a couple of sites that were penalized, no connection with them other than they were good sites with good information. They got hit for the "bad links" penalty. Proof enough to me that sometimes the best sites won't show up in a Google search, for stupid reasons like this.

Google is very hypocritical, penalizing sites for having too many ads when their search results are a mess of ads with very little content on the page.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
13. I put the same Google search every day for 9 years with no result, first day with Bing and Bingo!
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jul 2013

I have a very small collection of fly reels, one model by a single manufacturer that came in two versions and four sizes, for eight reels in total. I had found 6 of the 8 within a couple of years but the last two, and particularly the last one, were nearly impossible to find. Every day for nine years I did the same search on Google just trying to find any mention of one of the reels. Then I found Bing and on the very first search I located one of the reels, in England, brand new on a dealer's shelf; probably the last one on earth that had never been out of the box. I called the seller and asked if they actually had the thing, which they did (the man told me it had been on their shelf for 14 years), and how much the taxes and shipping would be and of course I bought it right then and there (plastic by phone).

Score, Bing 1, Google 9 years worth of daily zeros.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
14. "Real" search results =/= only organic search results.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

"Organic" search results aren't the only "real" results on the page. The AdWords (paid) search results at the top and right side are no less "real." They are every bit as likely to be relevant to the user's search query (keywords) as organic results. More so, if the user is searching for a product or service...a Wiki page isn't going to be of much use to such a searcher.

If they're doing a purely informational search (that is, looking for data, articles, etc., and not for some sort of product), parsing their search query in a simple manner (like using "blah blah wiki" or "articles on blah blah&quot will reduce the number of ads (often to zero) and bring informational links to the top of the organic results. Really broad searches (like "travel" or "cars&quot is going to net a lot of ads and it'll be pretty random if the organic results for the first few pages are of any use...but that's not Google's fault. The user should learn to use search better.

If you really don't want to see ads (and have more privacy), use DuckDuckGo. It uses Google's search engine and data index...but essential;y severs the connection between user and Google...and has no ads.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
15. When I google "auto mechanic" I get a very nice page of results
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jul 2013

I've got 3 paid ads at the top (at most 5% of page area), followed by about 10 local mechanics and their phone numbers and a map on the right, followed by a dozen other hits of various types, including a youtube, automd, aaa, and other useful things. Then finally a "Searches related to auto mechanic" listing.

Very helpful and nicely organized.

Your google search results page looks very different from mine. I don't know why that is.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
17. Only if you're too inept to SCROLL.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jul 2013

I just did the same search (on a normal screen, not one of those tiny Macbooks that are only owned by an expendable minority) and got roughly the same result. Until I scrolled. If you re-do the match using the ENTIRE result set, and not just the tiny bit that shows up when you elect to ignore a web function that has been common since 1993, the ads take up less than a quarter of the page overall.

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