Night out. :sigh:

Never expected this...

and I still think your devotion to pasting anything negative you can possibly find about Jews- not just Israelis- is weird.

'Jewish' issue that you, in your fantasy thinking, seem to think I have in the past and you fail to produce.

Spell it out. The DU database could provide the 'proof' but you won't/can't find it.

Am I critical of the apartheid like state of israel?

You goddamned right and your petty taunts shall not change that one iota but go ahead and keep trying.

it lists Jews who are speaking out against Israel's occupation of Palestine so Let's take a looky loo at that article BTW the author Ami Kaufman is also a Jew did you know that? or hope no one else would

Hard to see how it relates to "Israeli Apartheid" but it certainly is often seen among people who feel Jews control the world.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251122369

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Gambling Baron Adelson Uses Million Dollar War Chest to Convince Jewish Voters to Abandon Dems

permited on DU? Really?

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because he's (Adelson) is Jewish?

Please explain how that article comes from a "Jews control everything" angle.

"anti-semite" is doing.

If you are against Israeli policy, fine.

But when it starts to bleed into looking under every rock for examples of how Jews either control things or get away with corruption, sexual misbehavior and financial shenanigans because they are Jewish, you are deep in the land of Anti-Semitic thinking.

Because I looked at that article and another one you posted a link to and I'm not seeing what the problem is with them.

If anyone went back through yr posting history, they'd see a lot of posts about women and feminism, if they went back through mine they'd find a lot very critical of Israel, but that doesn't make someone a bigot. It's what they *say* in their posts and what sources they use that are the things that matter...

But people could conclude from my many posts about women that I am annoyed by Western double standards about misogyny and what constitutes sexism.

And they would be right. They could and do conclude that I have an issue with some of the radical feminist viewpoints as I have seen them expressed.

Critical of Israel is not the same as looking for Jewish conspiracies everywhere and using the quote of a single Israeli to make Jews in Israel look like racists.

Is saying that someone is exhibiting anti-semitic thinking in some regards the same as saying they are an anti-semite?

I don't think so. Everyone has racism built into them for example. But that doesn't mean I would use the word "racist" -just that they need to become aware themselves of their bias and direction.

And rightly so when you look at how SOME of them want to implement their religion into our laws.

To think some who follow the Jewish faith don't do the same is a tad naive - hell, we have a whole site called right wing watch that posts daily things about whack job Christians. Christians make a movie - we see an agenda in it. They use lobbying power, we call it out.

Why should it be different for any other group to keep up with what the fundies in that group are doing?

And Christians don't have a 2,000 year history of being hunted down either.

Also they are not a tiny fraction of the population. And they don't get teased or beaten at school for being Christian -nor do they get prevented from dating someone's daughter because they are Christian.

Nice idea about the fairness thing, Straight Story, but it is strained and stretched.

I don't think criticizing Jews or Israel means we want to bring on the 1930's/40' again.

I don't judge them on their past but on what people are doing today and whether or not it is in the best interest of folks.

When you put your religion and your country (Israel) first it can cause issues here. Fundies side with the whole Israel can do no wrong thing. I don't hate Israel, consider them an ally, but I won't put them on a pedestal out of fear of being labeled anti-semitic.

Criticism of policy and action is not hate, and calling it such only serves to shut down debate.

It has shown up over at reddit:

Has a 'Secretive Israeli Company' been hired by Zanu-PF to fill the voters' roll with overseas and dead voters, and count their votes towards Mugabe?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/10157931/Fears-Zimbabwes-election-is-being-stolen-by-Mugabe-allies-through-purge-of-electoral-roll.html

Are that it does not mean that that can be interpreted as being any more reflective of Israels overall than a fringe US right wing company could be interpreted as reflecting Americans.

...problems and excesses.

When Israeli actions benefit Jews to the detriment of all others, it's not antisemitism to point out the fucking elephant in the room.

against the Jewish people one iota.

gets a pass because he's Jewish?

What powerful worldwide Jewish group with its own sovereign nation was trying to hide rampant sexual abuse of children?

but still you finger point

I don't know about you personally, but the vitriol (quite rightly) directed against the RC church for the way it sheltered and enabled its offender priests is always loud, and rarely protested as anti-Catholicism, and any such protests are usually met with ridicule.

And DO NOT protest that the RC's are big and ugly enough to look after themselves unless you are willing to throw the same support behind JIM FUCKING JONES himself.

What is the subtext? That Jews are pro-torture? Is that what you were saying?

Because "only one" major Jewish group had made a public statement on the issue? Were there a lot of other religious groups doing that? And when you were asked the question, you responded with the old "I dunno. Go write your own OP." LOL.

"I dunno" but please dig back further that 2007.

I'm sure there is 'something' out their were you can finally declare I'm an 'anti...something'.

+972 is the calling code for Israel and the West Bank

however I'd love to hear your take on their so called-agenda

It's a little weird that they would celebrate white night festivals at the latitude of Tel Aviv, but lots of Israelis emigrated from northern countries.

+10000

Fucking hell. Do they not know their own history?

Seems like immigrants everywhere are fair game.

And this mixed race couple will go back to Costa Rica before we will step foot in Israel. We travel a great deal - and this isn't the first time I've heard or read of this subset of Israelis making trouble for everyone. We won't be going to Austria either. Or Spain until they figure out their mess.

Costa Rica, Belize etc etc. My vacation time is short. I will go where tolerated until Israel can provide assurance that we won't be targeted by a couple of snotty street thugs.

And I don't think this is ALL Israelis . . . But a few can ruin the tourism dollars for the many.

...biracial, Jewish, and lived in Israel for 8 years. He experienced firsthand the bigotry of a certain segment of the Jewish population there, primarily those of eastern European decent. He was regularly harassed for dating white women, and the women were also harassed. He also has talked about how the African Jews are wanting to increase the Jewish numbers for Israel but treated like shit once there and often segregated into African-only neighborhoods. Interestingly, the folks who seemed most cool with him were Palestinian.

I read thru it ...Talk about a one trick pony.

From some of the threads here, can I assume that it's an anti-Israel site?

we have a damn long way to go as humans