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Please ignore this / This was a hoax (Original Post) Catherina Jul 2013 OP
For real! kentuck Jul 2013 #1
don.t cry for me,venezuela nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #2
Hahahaha NoOneMan Jul 2013 #3
Here: ProSense Jul 2013 #4
thanks for the link, i was wondering where it came from JI7 Jul 2013 #12
Still not sure about it yet. Still looking. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #16
You can be sure it is bullshit. Check out some of the links on the page. MADem Jul 2013 #36
Hmmm, yep your right, I didnt spot those. Yeah this is looking pretty dicey Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Jul 2013 #40
bwah hah!1 UTUSN Jul 2013 #18
also from this "story" arely staircase Jul 2013 #22
... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #33
Oh my..... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #70
Interesting, if true? kentuck Jul 2013 #26
seriously? Holy shit quinnox Jul 2013 #5
LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #6
Tnx for the information, Catherina. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #7
really ? JI7 Jul 2013 #15
That was likely snark... nt MADem Jul 2013 #37
No, I don't think it was... Number23 Jul 2013 #62
If you say so, I'll believe you--you are usually right on the money! nt MADem Jul 2013 #64
I agree she is a gem. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #51
LMAO. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #71
"You're doing a tremendous job of reporting accurate information". Ya think so? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #72
If that is the one from PRlog I think it is a hoax (you can make your own press releases) (nt) The Straight Story Jul 2013 #8
Yes. It is. It came across as a tweet with that link and I should have researched it more Catherina Jul 2013 #14
NP I saw it awhile ago but the guy on reddit had only 2 posts The Straight Story Jul 2013 #17
I just tracked down and cussed out the guy who started it on twitter. Catherina Jul 2013 #35
+1 Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #59
Not surprising. treestar Jul 2013 #45
"I was so excited and it looked so real. " jberryhill Jul 2013 #52
Thats exactly my problem with PR log. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #20
I neer heard of them until now. Well I know now lol! n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #42
I've used them for my own company when I was starting out. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #44
Venezuela has some great beaches, and a really diverse ecosystem. Zorra Jul 2013 #9
balerina will soon be forgot!1 nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #24
Tell him to wear a condom--women do not have the right of CHOICE in VZ. nt MADem Jul 2013 #38
Well, if CNN televises it, we'll know it was bogus. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #10
hoax GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #11
A little more info on it's origin here: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #13
Thank you. Nothing on any of my Latin American link. This is a hoax :( n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #23
What, no plane searches or intentional groundings? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #19
bwah hah!1 nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #29
Nothing on Google News Venezuela feed pscot Jul 2013 #21
Nothing at all, on Spanish News sites either. It was too good to be true n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #25
Thanks for the quick correction, Catherina. kentuck Jul 2013 #32
Embarrassing. Normally I check sources. This time I dropped the ball Catherina Jul 2013 #41
Trust Putin? kentuck Jul 2013 #43
I think Russia is going to make sure he safely gets to Venezuela Catherina Jul 2013 #46
because if anybody is more trustworthy than snowden it.s putin! nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #47
Putin will not turn him over to the US. kentuck Jul 2013 #48
I don't think he would turn him over Catherina Jul 2013 #54
If he's already getting plastic surgery... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #50
I really hope he does that. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #55
Well, a resolution of sorts, for better or worse. longship Jul 2013 #27
check the hugo chavez microphone nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #28
Seal Team 6 has been placed on alert. mick063 Jul 2013 #30
IIRC there os an Aeroflot Moscow to Havana flight on Sundays. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #31
I don't either. Are any of those journalists still hanging out in Havana waiting for him? Catherina Jul 2013 #57
OK, the picture is becoming clearer. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #67
I think they were enjoying Havanna after the long non-alcohol flight... temmer Jul 2013 #69
I think you need to delete this shit. Look at what this guy has put up in the past. MADem Jul 2013 #34
i think it's pretty clear that people here see it is a hoax TrudyC Jul 2013 #68
Agreed. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #74
K&R arely staircase Jul 2013 #49
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #53
You are a bad man, Scurrilous Number23 Jul 2013 #63
I saw this somewhere else earlier Gman Jul 2013 #56
And a very smart decision that was Catherina Jul 2013 #58
I just thought it was odd when my iPhone wasn't getting alerts Gman Jul 2013 #60
There's three links out there, but Al Jazeera, the supposed source has nothing. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #61
that was the first place I looked Gman Jul 2013 #65
Trash thread. Iggo Jul 2013 #66
DU Rec! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #73
Kickety...Kick....Kick!!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #75
The writer must have wished upon a star or something--the news just said that the RUSSIANS MADem Jul 2013 #76
This thread is awesome!!! nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #77
kick KittyWampus Jul 2013 #78

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
1. For real!
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jul 2013

I am surprised. I never thought he would make it out of Russia. But better to have him in Venezuela than in Russia, for security purposes, I suppose?

Will wait for more details.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
3. Hahahaha
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jul 2013

I got no skin in this game. I can just imagine the blood boiling in the vitriolic Snowden obsessed.

JI7

(89,260 posts)
12. thanks for the link, i was wondering where it came from
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jul 2013

doesn't seem that reliable to me, but could be wrong .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. You can be sure it is bullshit. Check out some of the links on the page.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:18 PM
Jul 2013

It's like the ONION, only misogynistic and not funny. Kinda like Hong Kong Ed and his admiration for Swiss prostitutes.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
39. Hmmm, yep your right, I didnt spot those. Yeah this is looking pretty dicey
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jul 2013

Thanks!

Pity. I was hoping he'd made it.

Ah well, the waiting game goes on.

Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #16)

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
22. also from this "story"
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jul 2013

Lindsay Mills’ new boyfriend Paul Horner told the BBC News earlier this month that Snowden couldn’t handle commitment. “He’s just using this whole whistleblower thing as an excuse. The truth is, Lindsay is a great girl and Snowden really blew it by leaving her,” Horner said. “But she’s with me now and I’ll make sure to take real good care of her. America is here for their women in need, especially when that woman was left by a traitor to this country.”

WTF

LOL

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
26. Interesting, if true?
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

"...The only flight for Snowden to avoid U.S. extradition was to travel through Cuba. We would like to thank our friends in Cuba for making this journey possible and such a success.” Thomas continued, “Mr. Snowden is a hero and should be treated as one. We are pleased to provide this hero a home where he can live and be safe.”

Maduro announced his decision to allow asylum to Snowden during Venezuelan independence day celebrations. “As head of state, the government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela decided to offer humanitarian asylum to the young American Edward Snowden so that he can come and live here, away from the persecution of American imperialism.”

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. Tnx for the information, Catherina.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jul 2013

You're doing a tremendous job of reporting accurate information to those of us seeking that amid the flood of BS and propaganda.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
14. Yes. It is. It came across as a tweet with that link and I should have researched it more
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:01 PM
Jul 2013

I was so excited and it looked so real. My bad

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
35. I just tracked down and cussed out the guy who started it on twitter.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jul 2013

Something tells me it's the same person.

Some jerk with @sheens_korner who's "Bangin 7 gram rocks and porn stars ftw!" and had a Charlie Sheen avatar. He's been tweeting that out for the last 12 hours. Repetitively too. https://twitter.com/sheens_korner Following 13 people and 35 followers. Jerk. It looks like he did one rock too many.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
44. I've used them for my own company when I was starting out.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jul 2013

It's a great way to market when you have little money in the budget for marketing.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. Venezuela has some great beaches, and a really diverse ecosystem.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jul 2013

I think Ed's really going to love it there.

Los Roques especially.

Hi Catherina!

GeorgeGist

(25,322 posts)
11. hoax
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.prlog.org/12170070-edward-snowden-safely-lands-in-venezuela-where-he-was-granted-asylum-to-avoid-us-extradition.html



Lindsay Mills’ new boyfriend Paul Horner told the BBC News earlier this month that Snowden couldn’t handle commitment. “He’s just using this whole whistleblower thing as an excuse. The truth is, Lindsay is a great girl and Snowden really blew it by leaving her,” Horner said. “But she’s with me now and I’ll make sure to take real good care of her. America is here for their women in need, especially when that woman was left by a traitor to this country.”

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
32. Thanks for the quick correction, Catherina.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jul 2013

My feeling, more and more, is that he has two viable options: Return to US for a "secret" trial or seek asylum in Russia. I think Russia wants him to stay very badly. He would be a PR goldmine for Putin. He would be a real-life hero to the Russians.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
41. Embarrassing. Normally I check sources. This time I dropped the ball
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jul 2013

from excitement. what a jerk thing to do.

I hope he makes it to Venezuela or wherever he wants. I don't trust Putin. I appreciate what he did but I still don't trust him. And coming back to the US would be suicide. He's not safe anywhere on the planet

I hope he's at least getting plastic surgery.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
43. Trust Putin?
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

Never!

But he is running out of options and, unless he wants to come back to the US for trial (probably secret), then he has no other option but to ask Russia for asylum. He will be treated like a hero over there, I am sure. I would be greatly surprised if he returned to the US.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
46. I think Russia is going to make sure he safely gets to Venezuela
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jul 2013

His spokesperson stated today that they were very pleased with the Venezuela option and that it was the best possible choice.


Edward Snowden Encouraged By Russian Official To Accept Venezuela's Offer Of Asylum

By LYNN BERRY 07/07/13 04:05 PM

MOSCOW -- An influential Russian parliament member who often speaks for the Kremlin encouraged NSA leaker Edward Snowden on Sunday to accept Venezuela's offer of asylum.

Alexei Pushkov, who heads the international affairs committee in Russia's parliament, posted a message on Twitter saying: "Venezuela is waiting for an answer from Snowden. This, perhaps, is his last chance to receive political asylum."

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Elias Jaua said Saturday his country hasn't yet been in contact with Snowden, who Russian officials say has been stuck in the transit area of Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport since arriving on a flight from Hong Kong two weeks ago. He has been unable to travel further because the U.S. annulled his passport.

Jaua said he expects to consult with Russian officials on Monday about Snowden's situation.

...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/07/edward-snowden-venezuela-russia_n_3558780.html

Venezuela asylum offer Snowden's best option: Russian lawmaker

(Reuters) - Political asylum in Venezuela would be the best choice for former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden, a senior Russian lawmaker said on Saturday.

...

"Asylum for Snowden in Venezuela would be the best solution. That country is in a sharp conflict with the United States," pro-Kremlin lawmaker Alexei Pushkov, chairman of the international affairs committee of Russia's lower house of parliament, said on Twitter.

...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/06/us-usa-security-snowden-lawmaker-idUSBRE96504820130706


I can't find it now but he added something about how the relationship between the US and Venezuela is so bad that this can't make it any worse.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
48. Putin will not turn him over to the US.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jul 2013

Maybe he thinks it is in Russia's interest if he is not in Russia? In that case, he could arrange a flight to Havana for him and a connection from there to Caracas. Of course, by the time we hear about it, it will probably already be done. It will not be advertised ahead of time.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
54. I don't think he would turn him over
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jul 2013

but possibly turn a blind eye if someone came to get him?

There's been a lot of speculation in the Spanish press about routes he could take. Someone researched also that for $200,000, a long-range private jet could be chartered. Just the two Snowden funds I know of had about $60,000 in donations last week so a private jet could be an option.

I agree that we wouldn't hear about it in advance. That would be suicidal.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
50. If he's already getting plastic surgery...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jul 2013

...then he'll just disappear. That wouldn't surprise me. I wonder if he's already in the wind.

TYY

longship

(40,416 posts)
27. Well, a resolution of sorts, for better or worse.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:06 PM
Jul 2013

As a DUer of moderate history, I am thankful for this. Maybe we can begin to become friends and again fight for the common cause -- to elect Democrats to office.

Don't like the Democrats in office? Well, work to become a delegate and help change the party like the Christians did with the GOP, from the inside and from the bottom.

If you want a progressive, liberal Democratic Party, get liberals and progressives into those precinct positions. But, I warn you all. It took the Christians a couple of decades to do it all. But when they got it done, they had the whole cake, frosting and all.

The have many state legislatures, too. That's the next stage. If DU doesn't see the stark future, they aren't paying attention.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
30. Seal Team 6 has been placed on alert.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jul 2013

The sovereignty of South American nations are not recognized in extreme cases like this.

We shall divert all further aid to Pakistan instead.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
31. IIRC there os an Aeroflot Moscow to Havana flight on Sundays.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jul 2013

I don't recall if the next one is Mon or Tues.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
57. I don't either. Are any of those journalists still hanging out in Havana waiting for him?
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jul 2013

I hope they make productive use of their time and learn a thing or two if they are.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
67. OK, the picture is becoming clearer.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:02 AM
Jul 2013

I did a little internet searching. There are no non-stop flights from Moscow to Venezuela. There are two airlines that fly non-stop Moscow to Havana. Aeroflot flies 5 flights per week...every day except wed and fri. Transaero flies on friday. Apparantly, those flights cross Baltic or Scandinavian countries friendly to the US, and likely won't authorize overflight with Snowden aboard. That makes me think Morales's flight may have been a trial run...the Russians deliberately leaking info Snowden was aboard, in order to test the waters.
It is possible to fly from Moscow to Havana (or Caracas) without overflight of any countries, but it is a much greater distance and would require a charter flight (big $, I assume). Range is within a large jet's capability though.

It might be possible to take an alternate route with stops...Russia to Iran, Iran to NW Africa (like Senegal?), and from there to Venezuela. Pretty risky though. Russia to Iran likely flies over Turkey, Iran to Nw Africa likely flies right through Med surrounded by NATO forces.

So it would seem Snowden's problem is with overflight. A charter flight eliminates that problem, but might be shot down with no other passengers aboard. Hmmm, will post if I find a solution.

 

temmer

(358 posts)
69. I think they were enjoying Havanna after the long non-alcohol flight...
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 05:52 AM
Jul 2013

and maybe still are... certainly enough drinks in Havanna...

...productive use of their time

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. I think you need to delete this shit. Look at what this guy has put up in the past.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jul 2013

Is this funny?

http://www.prlog.org/12157582-indian-woman-stoned-to-death-for-sending-husband-too-many-facebook-game-requests.html

Indian Woman Stoned To Death For Sending Husband Too Many Facebook Game Requests


Yeah...real hilarious, that.... not.

In case you're still unclear... http://www.prlog.org/12157111-facebook-whistleblower-says-fake-accounts-makeup-half-of-all-current-users.html


Paul Horner (not his real name) told the BBC that the shill accounts are not deleted for the sole purpose of keeping Facebook’s stock price up. “I think it is wrong what Facebook is doing and it’s finally time that someone came forward to expose this scam and that someone is me,” Horner said. “Facebook claims it has over 1 billion active monthly users. The real numbers are closer to 600,000 at the most. If that news were made public the stock price would plummet, so Facebook is careful not to take action against the fake accounts or to disclose that information.”

Horner then went on to list the sites with the most fake users on Facebook. “With the private data that I have personally seen, the pages that have the most fake users are the ones belonging to Fox News, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Rick Perry, Michele Bachman & Sarah Palin just to name some of the top offenders,” Horner said. “The fake users are easy to spot on their pages. Anyone agreeing with these people or telling them how much they love and appreciate what they are doing for America; that is a dead giveaway.” Horner continued, “All the Tea Party fan pages out there, those are 80-90% fake users. There is just not that much hate in the world for pages like those to have the numbers they do, and the companies that fund those pages know that too. So they create thousands of fake accounts and pay people with no morals to work their agendas using those shill accounts. Or they just let the shill account stay inactive but it gives the page the appearance of having more users than it actually does.”

Horner finished the interview by telling the BBC News where he got his inspiration to be a whistleblower. “If Edward Snowden has the courage to come forward and expose the NSA, then I can do the same in exposing Facebook.”


The right thing to do is just delete this garbage....if you think it's a hoax, that is. If you believe it, well............. ...... ................

TrudyC

(1 post)
68. i think it's pretty clear that people here see it is a hoax
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:13 AM
Jul 2013

It's just a conversation about the fact that it is a hoax! No harm done. In fact, it's helpful.

You are certainly correct that the idiot who wrote this crap is disgusting. All the more reason to expose him by exchanging the facts about what he has written, as you just did.

I guess he thinks he's "the Onion," or something, but the content is worse than not funny--it's sexist, mysogynistic B.S.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
74. Agreed.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jul 2013

Catherina did nothing wrong. She reported what appeared to be breaking news, unaware it was an intentional hoax by some douche-bag. As soon as it began to look like a hoax, Catherine edited her post to reflect that.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
56. I saw this somewhere else earlier
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jul 2013

But I couldn't find another site verifying the info so I didn't post it.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
60. I just thought it was odd when my iPhone wasn't getting alerts
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:54 PM
Jul 2013

From all the news services I subscribe to. I can think of a few choice words much worse than jerk. But I'll be nice like you!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
76. The writer must have wished upon a star or something--the news just said that the RUSSIANS
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jul 2013

have announced that Snowden is taking the Venezuelan offer.

Sounds like they're kicking his ass out.

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