Hold it up to the Constitution and glaring problem appear.

I'm saying my idea is legal.

Do YOU have an idea what to do about it? We have tried Occupy, demonstrations, GOTV. We still have the Patriot Act, and we still have a Prez who's willing to abuse it and us.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

that is the route the ACLU is taking.

I have an idea, but I'm sure if we put our heads together we can find a better one.

Remember the guy (I'm thinking it was in "Fight Club&quot saying that you shouldn't piss off the people who serve your food, shine your shoes, etc.?

What if these people were organized to fuck things up for the people who were in favor of the Patriot Act?

working on our behalf. The right to privacy and illegal search & seizure orgs.

Start a thread to get people to post them here & come up with a good list.

The first step is to show where their reasons collide with the Constitution and therefore their spying is illegal. Has anyone tried that yet? Not really, from what I have seen.

BUT, that doesn't make the revelation less important.

I had a relationship that didn't work out - everything inside of me knows why, but having the proof and the certainty that my suspicions weren't unfounded would be a tremendous relief. That's kind of how I see this....there is a certain comfort in knowing what we only suspected before, yes, it pissed us off, but at the same time it is validating.

Any change, if there is a change, will take time and it's important to remember how we feel right now so that we don't lose the desire to help bring about that change.

new technology emerges, greedy, power hungry criminals abuse it and profit from it before the people realize that not everyone is ethical enough NOT to abuse and laws are needed as a deterrent. Plus a few prosecutions.

Recognize that almost any communication medium has vulnerabilities and take responsibility for the security of one's systems and communications?

Or is that too far out of the box?

I didn't know this, but there are encryption programs that are completely unbreakable.

The guys who wrote the Fourth Amendment would have never sent unencrypted communications of any consequence.

Just subliminally press a few religious buttons, in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and the fundamentalists in the Middle East will gladly oblige. But then again, they don't need to at the moment. Guantanamo will perpetuate this. Drones will perpetuate this. Children watching their village explode from an unseen enemy will perpetuate this.

It isn't difficult to get half the world stirred up. A contractor suckling on this teat could covertly create an incident, anytime, anywhere to fan the flames again. Yes, I am not putting this past them. Trillions of dollars are at stake.

in the mean time the corporate controlled government will continue to divide and conquer the American public.