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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:41 AM Jul 2013

Grave New World{veterans for peace & surveillance}

http://www.nationofchange.org/grave-new-world-1373203115



In my own malcontent civic organization, Veterans For Peace, we’ve always known we were being watched. We are, after all, against war. And we’re impolite enough about it to hold up signs.

We’ve been monitored, infiltrated, entrapped, stung, eavesdropped, raided, arrested, and exiled far from important happenings.

And why not? Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Franz Kafka, and Ray Bradbury long ago explained how the system would work once those in authority got their act together and the technology to snoop on us all.

Needless to say, there are many other democracy-infatuated groups like ours that suffer similar spying and harassment. It makes little difference who’s in power at the moment. Power is power, and those who hold it want to keep it.
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Grave New World{veterans for peace & surveillance} (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2013 OP
K&R idwiyo Jul 2013 #1
As a frequent visitor to Arlington West at the Santa Monica Pier on HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #2
k and r--ask any of the feminist groups or any of the anti-war groups back in the 60's, 70's niyad Jul 2013 #3
I hadn't even thought of that happening to Feminist groups but it makes total sense Catherina Jul 2013 #4
here's one, will add others later niyad Jul 2013 #5
 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
2. As a frequent visitor to Arlington West at the Santa Monica Pier on
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jul 2013

weekends past, I salute you and your colleagues. One of the folks I vigilled with during the years of the Bush Junta at the Federal Building in Westwood was a VFP member and we always joked that our close proximity to the lions' den meant we stood a high chance of being surveilled. We even once had this bulky-looking Shwarzenegger-ish type come and stand on the sidewalk with us silently for an hour without saying a word and afterwards figured him for a Feebie. I and said VFP member approached this fellow and tried to engage him in conversation, but no dice. One of the creepier moments of that vigil.

niyad

(113,513 posts)
3. k and r--ask any of the feminist groups or any of the anti-war groups back in the 60's, 70's
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jul 2013

and 80's. nothing about this surprises any of us.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. I hadn't even thought of that happening to Feminist groups but it makes total sense
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jul 2013

Do you have any links or points of reference for this so I can add it to my files?

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