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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Moyers Special on Front Line - Two American Families
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reformist2
(9,841 posts)xocet
(3,872 posts)a kennedy
(29,707 posts)I just hate what has happened to this country......
malaise
(269,157 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)I can relate to it.
There are MILLIONS of people suffering these tragedies because of years of Washington economic policies.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)What's happened in this country is unconscionable. And, like clockwork, there's a thread on the Home Page about the Walmart fuckers threatening to pull out of DC because of the $12.50 living wage proposal. Good riddance.
malaise
(269,157 posts)and yes fugg Walmart.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)voted today in support of the living wage. (I'm in NC and will take all the good news I can get!)
a kennedy
(29,707 posts)It was a systematic dismantling of the middle class, no help, and a loss of everything, wages, homes, family, and in some cases a complete loss of self worth.
malaise
(269,157 posts)They are out to kill us.
For some reason I got really upset watching that Chinese couple buying the Neumann's home for next to nothing after the foreclosure.
Check out this review
http://variety.com/2013/tv/reviews/two-american-families-review-1200504070/
At one point, when one of the wives discusses building up debt on her credit card, she says, Itll tide me over till I can get a miracle.
Moyers makes explicit the underlying message how the disappearance of solid manufacturing jobs as employers pursued cheap labor undermined the ability of such blue-collar families to get ahead, with all the attendant strain that fosters. And while the Neumanns and Stanleys continue to work, raising three and five kids, respectively, they acutely feel the shift toward nonunion jobs, with lower pay and fewer benefits.
Our marriage is really on the rocks, Tony Neumann says early on, a harbinger of things to come.
Two American Families also underscores the sometimes-overlooked separation between the painstaking work of documentary filmmaking, which labors to elicit natural responses and reactions by investing the time to put the subjects at ease and reality TV, where the goal is to create characters. Perhaps thats why the former feels so much more real, having invested roughly a generation (on the order of Michael Apteds 7 Up series) into the process of documenting these peoples lives.
Not that Two American Families gets quite that deep, but it does put faces on the statistics to which we can easily become inured, while not-so-subtly arguing the hardships facing many Americans are traceable to forces much larger than their own enterprise or sloth. And if that challenges the popular mantra that anybody who works hard can get ahead in the good ol U.S. of A., its precisely the kind of discussion quality journalism is supposed to provoke.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)It really put the lie to the notion that "retraining" is the answer. These people have retrained, retrained, and retrained again. And it has gotten them nowhere.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)who have been enthralled with or bribed with discredited and debunked neoliberal economic policies that are killing countries.
This HAS to stop.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)As humans we are programmed to think it will get better somewhere down the line. But then we wake up 20 or 30 years later and realize it hasn't gotten any better. I'm in my late 30's. I keep thinking my family's situation will get better but the reality is it probably won't. My daughter is afraid of college debt, and I understand why. But I keep trying to tell her even with that debt she has a much better chance of survival if she will get her degree. I just keep trying to say that over and over and over again to her. I hope she gets it.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)And to be honest, the prospects of getting substantial pay raises down the road is dimming.
And still, college costs what now $10K, $20K, $40K per year?
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Luckily my father made it to retirement. My brother is in constant pain and still has another 20 years to go. Statistically college graduates do make a lot more money over the course of their life than non college graduates, and have lower unemployment rates. My daughter wants to be a veterinarian. She is going to community college the first two years, and we have some money in a 529. My husband is opening his own business so we are hoping to be able to help her out in the future. As someone who comes from a non educated family I see the value in investing in my children's future. I will do everything I can to encourage them to go to college and will do everything I can to help them pay for it.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)why did they have so many kids? Kids and houses are expensive. A job loss is less catastrophic with one kid than five I would think. I have never bought into the American Dream myth myself, I could never afford it anyways. #counterculture