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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:12 PM Jul 2013

Brazil lawmaker: US spying won't hurt relations

Brazil lawmaker: US spying won't hurt relations

By MARCO SIBAJA

BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) — Disclosures alleging that the United States has collected data on billions of telephone and email conversations in Latin America’s biggest country will not affect Brazil-U.S. relations, the head of Brazil’s joint congressional committee on intelligence said Wednesday.

Congressman Nelson Pellegrino told foreign correspondents in Brasilia that despite Brazil’s strong repudiation of the U.S. information gathering activities in Brazil ‘‘the good relations we have with the United States will not be interrupted.’’

‘‘We have sent Washington a clear message that we are interested in maintaining good relations, but that we will not accept these kinds of practices,’’ he said. ‘‘We cannot accept that a country spies another, on its citizens, its companies and its authorities.’’

He said President Dilma Rousseff’s state visit to Washington October was still on and that it would not be affected by the recent disclosures.

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/latin-america/2013/07/10/brazil-lawmaker-spying-won-hurt-relations/OK7bZK9PeTCL5SGEY7JF4M/story.html

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023213235



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Brazil lawmaker: US spying won't hurt relations (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2013 OP
All just a bunch of tough talk from Latin America railsback Jul 2013 #1
Oh, really? From Estadao/Brazil Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #2
What does that mean in terms of the OP point? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #3
That other congress members and a minister disagree with your congressman's assessment. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #4
Wait, ProSense Jul 2013 #6
"...would not be affected by the recent disclosures." Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #7
My guess... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5
 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
1. All just a bunch of tough talk from Latin America
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jul 2013

None of these countries, except for maybe Nicaragua, who really has nothing to lose, would actually take Snowden, IMHO.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
2. Oh, really? From Estadao/Brazil
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.estadao.com.br%2F&langpair=pt|en&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

BRASILIA - The U.S. Ambassador to Brazil Thomas Shannon, undertook to organize a team of experts in various sectors related to communications to investigate allegations of spying by U.S. agencies Brazilian citizens.

In a meeting with the Foreign Minister, Antonio Patriota, on Tuesday, Shannon said the team of technicians will provide information to the Brazilian government. Ambassador Patriota gave a document, one page, informing the creation of the expert group and pledging to cooperate.

Shannon recognized as legitimate Brazil's right to protest against the alleged espionage, but at no time admitted that his government has conducted such activities. Documents leaked by former CIA technical Edward Snowden indicate that e-mails and phone calls were monitored Brazilians and a spy base in Brasilia have been mounted by the Americans.

In a statement issued on Wednesday, the Brazilian government said it "has not authorized or had knowledge of the activities complained of. Possible involvement of the person, company or institution in the country in these activities is unconstitutional, illegal and subject to penalty of law."

Jornal do Brasil

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The Foreign Minister, Antonio Patriota said on Wednesday that the allegations of monitoring communications in Brazil by the U.S. government violated the sovereignty, human rights and other treaties. During the joint meeting of the Committees of the House Foreign Affairs and Senate, Patriota said the episode sets up a highly sensitive issue to be addressed not only bilaterally but also in the United Nations.

O Globo

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More than 35 senators signed request more than the minimum required.
Journal revealed that U.S. intelligence monitors communications in the country.


Senator Vanessa Grazziotin (PC do B-AM) announced on Wednesday (10) you want to present today a request to open a Parliamentary Inquiry Commission (CPI) to investigate allegations of spying by the United States via e-mail and phone calls in Brazil.

She said she must file an application with the Secretary-General of the Bureau of the House after the end of the hearing in the House to hear the ministers Celso Amorim (Defense), Antonio Patriota (Foreign Affairs) and José Elito Siqueira (Institutional Security Office).

By the early afternoon, more than 35 senators had signed the petition. The bare minimum of required signatures is equivalent to a third of parliamentarians - 27 senators. A CPI has the power to request confidential documents to agencies in Brazil without court authorization. The installation, however, depends on the decision of the Presiding Officers of the House.
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. That other congress members and a minister disagree with your congressman's assessment.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jul 2013

Which more than intimates that the Brazilian government is not amused about our spying on them.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Wait,
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jul 2013

"That other congress members and a minister disagree with your congressman's assessment. Which more than intimates that the Brazilian government is not amused about our spying on them. "

...so the point in the OP about the Brazilian government's "strong repudiation of the U.S. information gathering activities" is disputed?

How about this point:

He said President Dilma Rousseff’s state visit to Washington October was still on and that it would not be affected by the recent disclosures.

Has the trip been called off?
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. "...would not be affected by the recent disclosures."
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:30 PM
Jul 2013

I'm sure they'll confine their chat to the flavor of Brazilian coffee and the delights of the Samba. The president of Brazil wouldn't think of bringing up the fact that we're spying on them and that the Brazilian government is taking the case to the UN.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. My guess...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jul 2013

They do it too....especially against other Latin American countries.

We now know Germany, France and the UK do it as well.

Everyone's spy agencies are spying on other countries. This is utterly shock and breathtaking, I know, but it's happening.

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