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uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:47 PM Jul 2013

REPEATEDLY Following someone in FL is a criminal act IE; Stalking and...

...the repeated act doesn't have a time span either...it can be done in a SHORT time span or a long one.

http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/784.048

(3)?Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury of the person, or the person’s child, sibling, spouse, parent, or dependent, commits the offense of aggravated


Please ... PLEASE don't listen to people who tell you following someone like Z did TM is NOT against the law...

Don't try something stupid like that and think you're ok ...


Either way, there SHOULD be an OP or something of the sort explaining what to do IF ... IF you are folllowed and stalked like TM was stalked by GZ

Your take?

tia
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REPEATEDLY Following someone in FL is a criminal act IE; Stalking and... (Original Post) uponit7771 Jul 2013 OP
How many people thinks it is perfectly fine and legal HockeyMom Jul 2013 #1
We have some very determined Zimmie defenders here. n/t hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2
It is actually frightening to think .... etherealtruth Jul 2013 #17
Then why wasn't he charged with stalking? premium Jul 2013 #3
The same reason he wasn't charged with harassment of a minor? There were higher charges to go after? uponit7771 Jul 2013 #4
Sorry, premium Jul 2013 #7
In FL all the lesser charges are included aren't they? tia uponit7771 Jul 2013 #8
I think, and I'm not sure, premium Jul 2013 #11
Oh is there a limit now to the number of charges that can be brought? Perez Pradosky Jul 2013 #12
Zimmerman was not charged with stalking cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #5
He wasn't charged with a lot of things doesn't mean he wasn't breaking the law by REPEATEDLY uponit7771 Jul 2013 #6
Whatever. You choose to not read the statute properly and thus think false things cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #13
I disagree, repeatedly doesn't have a time span...Zimmerman REPEATEDLY followed someone who didn't uponit7771 Jul 2013 #14
Your Webster-Fu is weak. HolyMoley Jul 2013 #9
Did you even listen to Z's own account in the video?! It's not indispute that Z REPEATEDLY followed uponit7771 Jul 2013 #10
"That's the law" No, that's not the law at all. You want it to be, but it isn't. DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #15
Never said stalking was the verdict uponit7771 Jul 2013 #16
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
1. How many people thinks it is perfectly fine and legal
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jul 2013

for a man to follow a woman? Some strange man is following her in a car, and then gets out and walks after her. That is perfectly fine and dandy? SHE should not assume that he is stalking and ready to attack and rape her?

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
17. It is actually frightening to think ....
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jul 2013

... there is a cadre of folk here that support a person stalking and then murdering a "kid"

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
3. Then why wasn't he charged with stalking?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jul 2013

I'm only guessing, but I'll bet that the DA decided it didn't meet the legal definition of stalking.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
4. The same reason he wasn't charged with harassment of a minor? There were higher charges to go after?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jul 2013
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
7. Sorry,
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jul 2013

but my experience tells me otherwise, most DA's will charge a defendant with every offense that they legally can.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
11. I think, and I'm not sure,
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:05 PM
Jul 2013

but I believe that the only lesser included is Manslaughter, I know the prosecution tried to get Agg. Assault included as a lesser included but Judge Nelson shot that down.

 

Perez Pradosky

(18 posts)
12. Oh is there a limit now to the number of charges that can be brought?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jul 2013

Does the prosecution have to pay a fine for any charge in excess of 2 charges?

Dude, there was no stalking here. Show me anyone who was convicted of stalking for following someone for the similar amount of time that Zimmerman followed Trayvon (not that you know how long he followed him, either).

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. Zimmerman was not charged with stalking
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jul 2013

your (bogus and legally false) analysis would be on point (though wrong) when Zimmerman is charged with stalking, but since he wasn't charged with stalking your contention that he committed that crime is entirely irrelevant

Criminal law is not a silly little word game game. It is important stuff.

And laws do not mean whatever you imagine them to mean.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
6. He wasn't charged with a lot of things doesn't mean he wasn't breaking the law by REPEATEDLY
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:00 PM
Jul 2013

...following someone

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
13. Whatever. You choose to not read the statute properly and thus think false things
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jul 2013

The law you cite does not apply to any set of events alleged by the defense or the prosecution.

The law you cite does not apply to this case in any way.

You want it to... god knows why. But mere wanting isn't going to rewrite the law.

I don't have much respect for people who think the law is a parlor game. It's actually rather important.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
14. I disagree, repeatedly doesn't have a time span...Zimmerman REPEATEDLY followed someone who didn't
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jul 2013

...want to be followed and according to Dee Dees testimony there's NO DOUBT Trayvon was scared

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
9. Your Webster-Fu is weak.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013
re·peat·ed·ly


1. Several time; "it must be washed repeatedly".
2. More than once; again and again; indefinitely.
3. In a frequent, regular or cyclical manner.


http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/repeatedly

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
10. Did you even listen to Z's own account in the video?! It's not indispute that Z REPEATEDLY followed
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jul 2013

...TM.

The "repeatedly" in the law does NOT have anythign to do with time span so even if Z stopped for a split second and started again he is repeatedly following someone to the point a person could reasonably....

That's the law

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
15. "That's the law" No, that's not the law at all. You want it to be, but it isn't.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jul 2013

Stalking isn't needed for the guilty verdict that you desperately want, so I don't know why you're even arguing this point.

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