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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Vick killed a dog he went to jail
Plaxico Burress shot himself in a club and was sent to jail and still fighting with NFL teams to play him.
Marissa Alexander from Florida was sent to jail for 20 years for shooting the ceiling by this same Prosecutor
that prosecuted Trayvon Martin's case yet George Zimmerman is acquitted from all charges for killing a
17 years old boy and he gets to keep the gun that he used.
Where is the justice????
Try explaining this to your kids as an African American?
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)is that Michael Vick is in any way a victim. I'm tired of seeing that name tossed around as if he is some sort of martyr.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)What's being said is that if a dog can get justice, why the fuck can't a 17 year old boy?
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)to cloud your judgment.
The comparison is how the justice system is displaying imbalance when it comes to justice for all black people
in America.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)but it won't be furthered by trying to throw Vick's name out like he was the victim of some sort of injustice. If anything, he got off too easy, and he's now free to make more money than most people would see in a dozen lifetimes.
As for my hatred of Michael Vick - well, I try not to hate anybody. I will easily say that I loathe him, though. I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who abuses animals. While I don't follow the NFL much, I was a big fan of his when he was in college. It made me sick to my stomach when his crimes came to light.
My little Cairn Terrier has been pestering me the whole time I was trying to type this. I have to keep petting her with my left hand to keep her from nudging her nose up on my laptop. When I look at such a special, beautiful, trusting little dog, I have to wonder how anyone could ever take pleasure in such an animal's harm.
You have to be a sick fuck to be involved in dog fighting.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)that there was so much outrage over the animal cruelty in a dog fighting ring but mostly silence about the much greater amount of cruelty in the meat and animal products industry. A similar issue comes up with fur clothing.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Raising or hunting animals only for their furs is wrong, IMO. The meat industry needs a major overhaul to be even close to humane.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)there again, it depends on the perpetrator. If the person doing the crime is black then the outrage will be double,
if that person is from another race then you get the full hand of the law.
This is American justice.
allin99
(894 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)allin99
(894 posts)iirc, the time he served was less related to animal cruelty than the other charges related to the ring. it wasn't justice for the dogs... his prison time was for the interstate felony charges re: to all the activities involved, not just the torture
and yes, i believe there is a lack of justice for black men in this country.
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flvegan
(64,408 posts)Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)Unless you think a dog's life more valuable than a young black man's?
allin99
(894 posts)that he served the majority of his time for. iirc the killing the dogs were part of the charges, but were not as much of the sentence.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)that was done to Michael Vick.
allin99
(894 posts)with killing and torturing dogs and zim got nothing for murder. It's not right. agreed.
mythology
(9,527 posts)The case presented by the prosecution wasn't enough to meet the bar of beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes I think it sucks that George Zimmerman isn't going to jail, but as Benjamin Franklin said, "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer".
The prosecution had to prove it's case. A dog fighting ring is easy to prove, as was Plaxico Buress shooting himself. It's pretty easy to point to a dog that has been in a dog fighting ring, it's easy to prove that the gun Plaxico Buress had was the one that shot him.
It's hard to prove what happened on a dark street with no real witnesses. Yes George Zimmerman was the underlying cause of any confrontation and therefore the death of Trayvon Martin, but that alone doesn't prove murder or manslaughter given the laws around self-defense. I think those laws should be revisited in light of this case, because there's obviously a pretty big flaw with them.