are drone threads.

consider this a well placed kick.

but I'm talking in general. In general, threads about abortion get very few responses. That's always been true here and it's true now that there's a crisis.

I think some many folks just aren't in the game any more. The right has slowly taken the language in their favor, making many people afraid to fight. They say it's just a little mod here or there, a measure for safety or to be properly informed, but they always had their eye on the prize. And now with TRAP laws they are striking for the kill.

A month or two back, I started a thread on racial profiling and linked a video from upworthy.com. It got very few responses.

Yesterday, somebody used the exact same link from upworthy.com and it got 60+ responses and 60+ recommendations. However, it was right after the Zimmerman verdict.

and now, with things as dire as they are, it's even more of a shame.

Which is why yours sank. These attempts to close these clinics are mostly a war on poor people. If they close, many more affluent customers will be able to go to a regular clinic or across state lines. Certainly, it will be an inconvenience, but, for many of the lower income people, it will be an impossibility. Those who promulgated these laws made sure they did not hurt their wives, their daughters, their mistresses. But why should we care about poor people.

This is sadly a reflexion of where DU is as well. A progressive board who does not care about poor people and confuses them with middle class and upper middle class people.

for abortion rights to keep threads up and enough activism at the ballot box to prevent the laws from being passed.

People don't get that the affected population of potential users of abortion clinic services aren't just 16-45 year old poor women.

Or humans in general once they're born. I do not understand the mentality of of abortion protesters. They think their job is done once a baby is born? Wipe their hands of all responsibility. Or if a woman dies because of the lack of care she needs, do they really think they aren't culpable? They are.

away at abortion rights, they're knocking big chunks out. It is tragic the way this has been happening before our very eyes and it seems there is little we can do to stop it. "Never again" is turning into "Here we go again."

K&R

There is some reason to believe that this obsessive Repuke focus on destroying abortion rights will hurt them in 2014.

I know that's cold comfort, but here's to hoping for backlash.

-Laelth

Thanks, Cali.

It may be that a majority think that Roe v. Wade settled the issue.

Like Frank-Dodd settled the banking issue.

Like the debt ceiling, sequestration, the farm bill and the NSA spying have nothing in common.

who have daughters that this will ultimately affect.

They have no idea that the sisters who have gone before...died...so that they would have these freedoms.

I listen to the women around where I live talk, and it sickens me.

But one thing for sure...they will miss it when it is gone.

With a sad kick...

could be found in front of the clinic every weekend. Every few months I used to show up with a couple of pizzas. I would exit my car, approach the clinic, pizza boxes in hand, and was always greeted with profuse thanks for my support for "the babies". And every time I told them I was there to deliver sustenance to the poor people inside the clinic who were being threatened and harrassed by a bunch of sanctimonious jackasses. Eventually, the regulars began to recognize me and backed off, but until that time the looks on those clown's faces was always worth the cost of the pizzas.

But all of the clinics I've volunteered at, visited and seen have been owner-occupied, as in the clinic owned the building. No landlords involved. All but one of the clinics actually had rather large lots with relatively small buildings, to provide a buffer space as a territory denial strategy against the protesters. (California, Arizona - Phoenix, Tucson, Yuma and Flagstaff, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Kansas, if anyone's curious. All were PP, some were personal visits, most were clinic assists when a clinic was under attack.)

I understand in heavily urban cities, this may not be possible, but even in the LA basin, one of the clinics is in a medical condo building (so the clinic owns the office space, but pays an association fee for parking lot and elevator and such maintenance). IIRC, the condo system actually pushes the protesters even further away from the clinic, because the Access to Clinics law forces jthem to remain on public (I.e. sidewalk) land. From what I can tell, territory denial has been a major strategy for something like twenty years.

Am I missing something? Commercial rent isn't cheap, and even 5 years of commercial rent is generally less expensive than 5 years of commercial mortgage. I seem to recall that Dr. Tiller's successor bought the building, too. Is this just a regional thing?

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