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I work with Neanderthals (Original Post) DainBramaged Jul 2013 OP
A possible rejoinder. reteachinwi Jul 2013 #1
He has a point. Wait Wut Jul 2013 #2
It's sad that the sarcasm icon is even needed IrishAyes Jul 2013 #27
It's all based on different values. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #3
"Krugman was right - liberals and conservatives inhabit different moral universes." Link? nt raccoon Jul 2013 #5
link Hestia Jul 2013 #11
Thank you kindly, dear. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #28
Give me awhile and I'll locate you a link, perhaps after dinner tonight IrishAyes Jul 2013 #20
This is only one of many places the quote can be found, as it represents IrishAyes Jul 2013 #29
No capacity for empathy Lex Jul 2013 #4
"Because We're Human, that's why" n/t n2doc Jul 2013 #6
And that was my thought too DainBramaged Jul 2013 #7
Neanderthals had similar brain size to Homo sapiens FarCenter Jul 2013 #8
and thank goodness there are those who have inherited those traits n/t Hestia Jul 2013 #12
Or interbred. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #15
Eurasians are only about 4% Neanderthal, so not very much interbreeding FarCenter Jul 2013 #18
Interesting. We are learning so much about so many things now. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #19
I saw a piece on PBS IrishAyes Jul 2013 #21
Yes, genes to strengthen the immune system. FarCenter Jul 2013 #25
Blue eyes, red hair, larger brains, plus cultural adaptive traits such as music, shelter, clothing Coyotl Jul 2013 #26
Blue eyes, red hair, larger brains, cultural adaptive traits.... IrishAyes Jul 2013 #30
Sigh shenmue Jul 2013 #9
You are truly fortunate. As an anthropologist, I'd love to meet them. Coyotl Jul 2013 #10
They fart a lot and have stinky breath DainBramaged Jul 2013 #13
Now I'm convinced, you ARE working with the wrong species Coyotl Jul 2013 #16
See 21 above IrishAyes Jul 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author IrishAyes Jul 2013 #22
There are some weird reactions going on. Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #14
What a shitstain. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #17
i wonder how Zimmerman will feel when he sees many White People JI7 Jul 2013 #23
Even if they liked him IrishAyes Jul 2013 #31
because we are not all paranoid gun humping racist teabagging pieces of SHIT Skittles Jul 2013 #32

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
2. He has a point.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jul 2013

Why should a bunch of white people like me give a shit about some black teenager that was killed walking home from the store? Seriously. It's not like he was one of 'us'. Right? Hoodies are a guarantee that a black kid is up to no good. I'm wearing one now, but I'm a middle-aged white woman so it's obvious I'm wearing it as a fashion statement. I also hate Skittles so I assume only no good black kids eat Skittles. When I talk on my cell phone, I make sure that I wave it around so everyone can see it's a cell phone and not a weapon. We all know that black kids talk into their weapons. I've seen it all the time.

Your manager should be fired for encouraging a hostile and bigoted work environment.


Just in case someone is new here: <---- for the first part of my reply, not the second part.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
27. It's sad that the sarcasm icon is even needed
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

But then some people are too thick to recognize it otherwise.

Liked your post.

Unfortunately all the time I'm reminded of my own status privilege. Badly though some of the rednecks around here treat me at times, I can still get away with a lot more than if I had a better tan. I even talk back to certain cops I don't like and they can't do a blessed thing about it, and I know they know it. Not that I take advantage, but I've made it clear what I'll do if they try anything illegal. I even told the local chief of police (he has one deputy, a good one) that unless the law absolutely required him to come in my yard, he's not welcome and he'd better call ahead to arrange a phone appointment if he wants to talk to me about anything. I've even gone to town council meetings to raise polite hell about certain things, and that's clearly just the first step. They don't like me too much, but they've learned not to overstep either. Could my best friend from L.A. come out here and behave like that? Not if she wanted to stay free, she couldn't.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
3. It's all based on different values.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jul 2013

White people have the right to defend themselves but blacks don't. Krugman was right - liberals and conservatives inhabit different moral universes. And I'm glad, because the conservative one would do just fine as a substitute if there's no real hell. You may not believe this, because child psychologists will say it doesn't happen anywhere near so early, but I received an epiphany sometime before the age of 5. I looked around me at what I now realize were conservatives and vowed to myself, "I'm not going to be like those people." As little as I understood then of the gory details, I could tell something was seriously wrong with them. You know the stench rises to high heaven when even a little child is overcome by the fumes.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
20. Give me awhile and I'll locate you a link, perhaps after dinner tonight
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jul 2013

Or you might make it a race and see who can google it first. It's such a well known quote of his that I never thought to do that. Sorry. But it shouldn't be hard to find.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
29. This is only one of many places the quote can be found, as it represents
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

Krugman's basic philosophy:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2010/03/paul-krugman-senator-bunnings-universe.html

"So, as I said, the parties now live in different universes, both intellectually and morally."

Look down at about paragraph 10.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
4. No capacity for empathy
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jul 2013

and no intellectual ability to put himself in the shoes of anyone else besides himself.



DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
7. And that was my thought too
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jul 2013

I am not getting into a figt with him, but I have a different opinion of him now. And not a good one.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
8. Neanderthals had similar brain size to Homo sapiens
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jul 2013

They might have been just as intelligent, but less agressive, nasty, and well-armed, so they didn't survive.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
12. and thank goodness there are those who have inherited those traits n/t
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jul 2013

You can't help but hope that that DNA get's triggered more and more.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
18. Eurasians are only about 4% Neanderthal, so not very much interbreeding
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jul 2013

Sub-Saharan Africans generally have no Neanderthal genes, although there may be some small back-migration of Eurasians from Arabia to the Horn of Africa and south along the Nile Valley. Much of the Sub-Saharn African population descends from farmers migrating out of West Africa in the Neolithic, which submerged earlier populations.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
21. I saw a piece on PBS
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:15 PM
Jul 2013

saying geneticists think they interbred with us and gave us very good survival genes.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
26. Blue eyes, red hair, larger brains, plus cultural adaptive traits such as music, shelter, clothing
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jul 2013

Albeit, blue eyes are not exclusive to them. Their adaptations to cold may have enabled fully moderns to disperse.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
10. You are truly fortunate. As an anthropologist, I'd love to meet them.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jul 2013

Are they more intelligent, eloquent, and culturally advanced? Or are those old prejudices true about low brows?

Response to Coyotl (Reply #10)

Baitball Blogger

(46,768 posts)
14. There are some weird reactions going on.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:07 PM
Jul 2013

I have a friend who is both latino and black and he posted on his facebook a link to a black radio commentator who said that Zimmerman got off because of black racism. And he wasn't talking about racism against blacks.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
23. i wonder how Zimmerman will feel when he sees many White People
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jul 2013

view him as a murderer also and shun him.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
31. Even if they liked him
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jul 2013

Who'd invite someone to a dinner party that wears a great big bull's eye? Although I agree mostly with another poster who said he's likelier to OJ himself and wind up in jail sooner or later.

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