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Zimmerman wants to sue NBC. He does knows he will be be deposed under oath, right? (Original Post) gort Jul 2013 OP
What's the big deal? He'll lie. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #1
The truth is easy to tell. gort Jul 2013 #3
It is all about strategy. avebury Jul 2013 #21
Far from me to cheer on a corporation Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #2
Yes they do have deeper pockets. avebury Jul 2013 #22
Yep, and anything he says can be used in a civil trial... Spazito Jul 2013 #4
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #6
I dare him malaise Jul 2013 #5
Agree...I took on a corporation once HipChick Jul 2013 #7
NBC has already admitted wrong doing. former9thward Jul 2013 #10
I agree about the jury anomiep Jul 2013 #12
It won't be granted. former9thward Jul 2013 #13
I am aware of that anomiep Jul 2013 #15
Sure, there are other factors at play. former9thward Jul 2013 #16
Oh, sure anomiep Jul 2013 #20
Yep. We'll be reading the headlines LittleBlue Jul 2013 #14
That will be fairly simple. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #8
He may not have to testify to anything you'd want him to testify about anomiep Jul 2013 #9
NBC = Unlimited Funds & Better Lawyers otohara Jul 2013 #11
He's a liar and crim son Jul 2013 #17
NBC screwed up by editing the tape to fit a narrative ksoze Jul 2013 #18
Don't care...I still want NBC to dig up the dirt for public consumption... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #23
hes a liar and will get away with it. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #19

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. What's the big deal? He'll lie.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jul 2013

What do oaths have to do with it? Perjury charges are rare, and wouldn't be laid even if the proof were there in a civil case like this.

gort

(687 posts)
3. The truth is easy to tell.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jul 2013

The best part is the lawyers will just ask him questions that he will be compelled to answer. The more answers he gives the more lies he will tell.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
21. It is all about strategy.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jul 2013

You frame the questions in such a way that, when he lies, you get to start bring in all of his misdeeds to impeach his testimony.

Geoge:

Please oh please oh please, go for it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. Far from me to cheer on a corporation
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jul 2013

but I'd love to see NBC fight this to the end...

To defend against a defamation suit, the first step is to prove the plaintiff didn't have much of a reputation to begin with and NBC has the legal muscle to bring out *everything* in Zim's life, even the stuff we don't know yet...

avebury

(10,952 posts)
22. Yes they do have deeper pockets.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jul 2013

I agree that I am not a big fan of Corporations, but I could live with the beathing GZ to a pulp in court. His over inflated sense of self worth will work to his disadvantage.

Spazito

(50,511 posts)
4. Yep, and anything he says can be used in a civil trial...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:41 PM
Jul 2013

a wrongful death suit. Carry on, Zimmerman and O'Mara, carry on.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
7. Agree...I took on a corporation once
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jul 2013

they had whole buildings full of lawyers...I ended up dropping it..

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
10. NBC has already admitted wrong doing.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jul 2013

They apologized and fired the reporters. The only thing left is the settlement. There is no way NBC lets this go to a jury.

anomiep

(153 posts)
12. I agree about the jury
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jul 2013

But whether or not it goes to settlement may depend on it going to court and the result of an NBC motion saying essentially 'yes it happened, but we took appropriate action when it happened, zimmerman needs to sue the reporter, not us"

I'd expect such a motion, if it were denied I think NBC makes a settlement offer, if its granted they'd no longer be a defendant in the suit.

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
13. It won't be granted.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jul 2013

Legally an employer is responsible for the actions of their employees. They were not doing something 'off the clock'. If a truck driver hits you, his employer is going to pay you not him.

anomiep

(153 posts)
15. I am aware of that
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

but I am not entirely certain of the law with regards to how an employer taking action against the employee committing the act may mitigate the responsibility of the employer, and as to whether or not NBC had stated policy and such against doing what was done that may also mitigate. I really don't know in that respect, my point was that it may not be as simple as 'straight to settlement'.

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
16. Sure, there are other factors at play.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:15 PM
Jul 2013

But the reason NBC will pay rather than going to trial is that a trial will bring out how 'news' is really produced. A media giant like NBC does not want the public to see that. The old line about 'you don't want to see how sausages or legislation is made' applies to the news divisions of the corporate media giants.

anomiep

(153 posts)
20. Oh, sure
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jul 2013

I can see why they wouldn't want all that drug up.

I just think that if they can get it to a motion to dismiss or the like, they'll do that - it'll only be after a denial of such a motion that they'll settle.

Although, hmm, getting it to a motion to dismiss may well require enough discovery that they'd want to avoid it.

I don't think we're substantially disagreeing.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
14. Yep. We'll be reading the headlines
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

"NBC and Zimmerman settle out of court. Amount undisclosed. NBC admits no further wrongdoing" etc

They'll just pay him to make him go away. If it goes to trial, Z's lawyers will have a feeding frenzy asking employees if they are biased in news coverage, uncovering embarrassing statements under oath. They'll avoid an embarrassing trial about their own credibility at all costs

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
8. That will be fairly simple.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jul 2013

Play the unedited call that Z made to the police.

Then play NBC's edited version.

He won't have to take the stand and answer any questions about the events of that evening.

PEDICTION: NBC will offer a large out-of-court settlement, but they will want a secrecy agreement as to the amount of the settlement.

anomiep

(153 posts)
9. He may not have to testify to anything you'd want him to testify about
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jul 2013

His suit is about NBC cutting up the call audio to make it look like he said 'he looks black' out of the blue, when it was actually a response to the dispatcher asking.

In a civil trial it may well be the case that any questions they ask Zimmerman be limited in scope to issues relevant to that.

Which likely means that they'd get to ask him about his views on race and evidence of his views in race - but the shooting itself could well be out of scope.

("Anything" in the post title is too strong a term, because I'm sure people would want him to testify on that. The point is he probably won't have to testify about the actual fight and shooting)

crim son

(27,464 posts)
17. He's a liar and
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jul 2013

I'm sure the prospect of having to continue lying doesn't even register as an issue for him.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
18. NBC screwed up by editing the tape to fit a narrative
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jul 2013

Forget his guilt or disposition, NBC did some fox-like editing which does no one any good.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Don't care...I still want NBC to dig up the dirt for public consumption...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jul 2013

He's due about 100 years of bad luck breaks about now...

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