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New Utah NSA Spy Center Needs 1.7 Million Gallons Of Water A Day
So where does all that information the NSA is collecting on Americans and the world go? One place will be the NSAs massive new spying complex in Utah. Apparently all that data takes a toll on the computers as it has been reported that the center requires 1.7 million gallons of water a day to operate.
More secrets, more water? The NSA data center in Bluffdale could require as many as 1.7 million gallons of water per day to operate and keep computers cool. Initial reported estimates suggested the center would use 1,200 gallons per minute, but more recent estimates suggest the usage could be closer to half that amount.
Our planning is anywhere from 1,000 acre-feet per year to 2,000 acre-feet per year, and that represents if it was 1,000 acre-feet per year, that would be about 1 percent of our total demand, said Jordan Valley River Conservancy District assistant general manager and chief engineer Alan Packard.
Bluffdale is set to become the biggest spy center in the country and a major destination for the NSAs domestic and international spying program. But hey, its not all bad. At least the people in Bluffdale are getting some business.
Bluffdale City manager Mark Reid described the NSA project and the new water and electrical infrastructure around it as a significant benefit to the city.
Reid said Bluffdale otherwise wouldnt have had the resources to improve the land all the way to the south end of the city limits. Instead, the government funded $7 million in infrastructure to the data center, and an additional $5 million in infrastructure back from the site that will allow a third of the water used at the facility to be recycled.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/07/16/new-utah-nsa-spy-center-needs-1-7-million-gallons-of-water-a-day/
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)have no trouble finding plenty of employees to do its bidding.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Bigot.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)This facility in a town that is 96% white.
Interesting quote in the salt lake tribune.
"Utahs population is not Berkeley or Cambridge," Bennett said. "You wouldnt be hiring folks who would be picketed by their neighbors or any of the other kind of problems you might run into somewhere else."
There is no indication, however, Utahs conservative politics played a role in the data center coming here.[/div
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56472070-90/utah-nsa-data-center.html
EOTE
(13,409 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Snooping on half a billion people stacks up a lot of hardware... Got to keep it cool!
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Running up to 1 million Intel Xenon core processors at the same time.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56515678-78/data-nsa-http-www.html
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)they can store that shit on. Is it just thousands of Solid State drives?
Plus I'm not sure why they are using water and not anti-freeze. I have 9 liquid cooled systems in my rig and they are all cooled with anti-freeze. Even the big systems I have seen where all the rigs are cooled by one cooling system routed to all the computers use anti-freeze it keeps everything cooler and lasts way longer than water..
And here I am trying to figure out how they are cooling the systems they are going to use to store my "metadata".
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)than the data collection. The water waste does raise some questions about their computer cooling methods, but holy crap that must be a lot of data they are collecting, storing and analyzing. It sounds like a hell of a lot more than just metadata.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)In surprise to NSA, Utah Data Center may pay tax on electricity (uses $40M/year in electric)
In surprise to NSA, Utah Data Center may pay tax on electricity (uses $40M/year in electric)
Under a bill the 2013 Utah Legislature passed, the National Security Agencys new Bluffdale data center might be taxed on the millions of dollars of energy it is expected to consume, providing a potential windfall for an obscure state authority.
The NSA is protesting the possible tax, even though a Utah attorney said he informed the agency about HB325, and the top U.S. electronic spy agency voiced no opposition until an official emailed Gov. Gary Herberts staff weeks after Herbert signed the measure.
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HB325, which Herbert signed into law April 1, benefits the Utah Military Installation Development Authority (MIDA). It allows the entity, which was set up to put select military properties on the public tax rolls, to collect a tax of up to 6 percent on Rocky Mountain Power electricity used by the Utah Data Center.
While the NSA has offered no specifics about the Utah Data Centers operations, a 2012 Wired magazine article, citing former intelligence and NSA officials, said computers at the data center will collect electronic information from emails to cellphone records to purchasing receipts from all over the world, store it and look for threatening patterns. The article estimated the Utah Data Center would consume $40 million of electricity a year a level of consumption at which the NSA would have to pay up to another $2.4 million annually to satisfy the tax HB325 could impose.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56304956-90/utah-data-nsa-mida.html.csp
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022973091
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)What happened to the OLD spy center in Bluffdale, Utah??
From 2011 to 2013, the National Security Agency's (NSA) data storage center, the Utah Data Center, was constructed at Camp Williams in Bluffdale. It is approximately 1 million square feet in size.[4][5] Bluffdale is also home to the Granite Point data center.
It's crazy to continue to pour billions into Utah state infastructure improvements!
The rest of America has empty 200 acre facilities and plenty of small towns with nothing except empty facilities.