I detest him among Democrats more than all others. He can't hold a line if it's a piece of thread.

Looks like a 95% surrender on McConnell's part, with just a little bit of face saving on the NLRB.

I'm in the "Fuck voting for Democratic mouthpieces" corner. I don't live in Nevada, but that dude needs to be primary-ed to hell and back for all of the stupid and spineless decisions he has made. He isn't worthy to lead the Senate.

They didn't cave on anything. This still leaves us with no ability to get the major appointments through -- especially the Federal Court vacancies.

Lucy is alive and well.

This "Democrats can do know wrong, even while they are doing Republicans work for them" bullshit needs to stop.

use all the power they have.

Supports their agenda because he always finds a way to make the Republicans come out on top, even though Democrats hold the majority.

He's a slime ball.

It's smoke and mirrors - keep the people working against themselves and for two parties, which are really one corporate party with two faces.

That said, there are a few great people there, like Bernie Sanders - who's smart enough not to be in either party.

and this is a disgusting show.

in their ranks to prevent that from happening.

All we have to do is look at the House to know what they'd do.

than House members do.

Also, remember that Senators in general like the filibuster because it increases each Senator's power. Also, the filibuster slows things down and prevents them from happening, which is a Republican goal much moreso than it is a Democratic one.

John Boehner's lost control of his caucus because his members are more scared of Tea Party primaries than they are of pissing Boehner off.

Edit: Or, I should say, a few MORE.

Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are members of the new Republican party - old school sanity is on its way out.

Republicans are in the "We've lost our minds" party.

That said, I can still detest Reid because he can't make a political move without making sure he changes crazy Republican's diapers and wipes their ass, first. He indulges their idiocy, and that makes him nearly as bad as they are. Who is the more a fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?

I guess a gilded turd is all that you need for your museum to showcase your political views. I hope no one shatters the surface.

I forgot. You think Reid shits turds covered in gold because he has a (D) behind his name, no matter what he does.

Got it.

The only reason nuke option is not being used is because the Republicans surrendered.

We get the NLRB seats filled.

We get the CFPB director seat filled.

We get EPA director filled.

We get Labor Secretary filled.

We get Ex-Im bank filled.

He's going to filibuster everything in sight. I trust that man about as far as I can throw him, and I doubt I could pick him up. He's a snake, and that's an insult to snakes. He's crooked.

They just agreed to not use it for these nominees.

He's cried wolf about 4 times now. What makes you think he will do it in the future? He's proved that he kowtows to Republicans. What else does he need to do except bow down to Mitch McConnell on the Senate floor to demonstrate that he abides by the wishes of Republicans?

Democrats had seven demands. Republicans gave in on all seven demands.

Republicans got jack shit in return.

Uh, I already said yesterday that he would cave. He did.

Now I predict that Reid will have the same obstinate Senate that he had before. I'm not welcoming it. I'm simply accepting reality. Trying to paint a picture where Reid is the Incredible Hulk and will drive the Senate (over which he has a majority) to follow a Democratic Party platform is ludicrous.

He doesn't follow the Democratic Party platform. He's part of the problem in DC.

This apologista for the Republican party phenomenon is disgusting. Reid is WRONG, has no backbone and can't stand the heat of stepping up for the Democratic Party. He needs to step down.

simply by getting along to get along, I'm upset. Reid does the work FOR the Republicans. That's not a fantasy, that's a fact, and it has gone on long enough. He doesn't have the backbone to run the Senate.

or the unprecedented use of the filibuster to block legislation. Quite a surrender.

Filibustering legislation is the new normal.

Judicial nominees will be interesting.

Now I know. It can get worse when your own party members are for sale.

horrible leader of the Senate. He will be remembered, with disdain, as one of the worst Senate leaders in history. He folds like an accordion with origami as a delicate flower for added flavor.

Worst Senate leader ever.

Don't pretend to know by looking it up. Your comment above shows you don't know anything about Congress.

Read my explanation below, and you will be slightly more informed and slightly less detrimental to our collective cause.

Condescending isn't a good look for a person with a username as yourself. Sofa King idiotic of a post.

...because people like me do that for you.

We also provide evidence that directly contradicts your own totally uninformed opinion,

which you

deliberately ignore

in order to carry water

for the Republican Party.

I think you should stop.

You accuse me of carrying water for the Republican party because I dislike Harry Reid? Um, excuse me, but where were you when I was trying to help him get re-elected to the Senate, even though I despise him, but knew he was a better candidate than Angle?

I have never made any bones about the fact that I detest him as Senate Majority Leader. That doesn't make me any less a Democrat - it makes me a Democrat that has common sense and a dedication to our party platform - both of which Reid has failed spectacularly at doing.

If your opinion is that I have to kiss Reid's ass to be a Democrat, then I suggest you find another party, because he lacks backbone - I don't.

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that I can be proud of. I don't have a backbone because I "don't know shit". Honey, If I didn't have a backbone and intelligence, I wouldn't have made the statements I made. Personal attacks won't ever bring me down, because intelligent arguments are much more worthy. Look at your screen name. Is that classy?

And you are correct, that is not cool. Please forgive me for crossing the line into personal insult. If I still have time, I will edit my post above.

that I'm a raving Republican (I'm not) and you are welcome to the opinion that Reid is a fantastic politician. I don't share that view. It doesn't mean I'm not a Democrat, and if you think I'm the only Democrat in the nation that abhors him being the Senate Majority Leader, you haven't been on any political blog lately. And yes, I was glad he was elected over Angle, even while I lamented that he was our Majority leader again.

Political arguments get heated, and occasionally, we attack our allies in the heat of battle.

Great nickname, cali. I shall plagiarize it often if that's ok with you.

The reason I've been arguing against the nuclear option for over ten years now is this simple: if you use it on an opponent as evil as the Republican Party, you can bet your sweet ass they will use it against you, first chance they get, more broadly and malevolently than you yourself can even imagine, with far more destructive results than if you had never used it in the first place.

You won't see Democrats actually use that option until they are absolutely certain they can maintain control of the Senate not just one election in advance, but FOREVER. Your opponent can never, ever again have a chance to gain control of the Senate or you're fucked and, as we all know personally by now, so is your country.

Last week, things were looking really good for the Dems. If they can bag this next election at the same 2 to 1 ratio that they won the Senate last year, Dems get their filibuster-proof supermajority and Republicans lose any realistic chance of ever regaining the Senate (demographically, their racism, chauvinism, homophobia and hatred of immigrants has only two or three viable elections left before Republican policies complete killing off those people; they might erode a supermajority temporarily but by then the nuclear option is a viable tool because Republicans will never regain actual control).

With that possibility on the horizon, the potential use of the nuclear option was real, and was a potentially useful tool in forcing a compromise.

But then this week Nate Silver read his tea leaves and decided that currently, Republicans actually have a chance--their last-ever chance, if you ask me--to regain temporary control of the Senate.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/senate-control-in-2014-increasingly-looks-like-a-tossup/?smid=tw-fivethirtyeight&seid=auto

If that were to happen AND we had just handed over the nuclear keys to Republicans, that would be it for Democrats and President Obama. Nothing would get done (and I know those of you who have no idea how Congress works think nothing is getting done right now, but seriously, you ain't seen nothing yet).

So, Harry Reid had to back off, not because Lucy keeps pulling the football away, but because Harry Reid has a knife and he's planning to hang Lucy from the kite-eating tree and gut her like a fucking deer. He only awaits the proper opportunity to do so, and this week ain't it.

that will do anything to preserve his seat as head of the Senate, which is why he shouldn't hold it. This idea of selling out your party platform to maintain control, then do fuck all when you get control needs to be addressed at the polls. Reid, however, should be forced to step down as Senate leader and let a Democrat with a backbone take over.

because this description: "Harry Reid has a knife and he's planning to hang Lucy from the kite-eating tree and gut her like a fucking deer. He only awaits the proper opportunity to do so, and this week ain't it."

Is about the most bizarre description of the mass of warm jello that is Harry Reid, that I have ever encountered. Are you saying Harry Reid is Clark Kent and he has been holding out all this time, waiting for just the right moment to don his cape and save us all?

Well then I cannot wait for this visit from the Senate Superman. We could sure use a guy like you described, hell we have needed him for years.. what is he waiting for?

got most of what he wanted from the Repubs. Could we all be wrong about him????

I never really hated the guy, he's just too much of a wimp.. Either way this really, really, does not describe Harry Reid:

"Harry Reid has a knife and he's planning to hang Lucy from the kite-eating tree and gut her like a fucking deer. He only awaits the proper opportunity to do so, and this week ain't it."

Remember the "do nothing" Congress? This one should be called the "can't get anything done" Congress.

"Doesn't have a clue Congress" since their approval rating is at 7%, which is just above bed bugs and herpes.