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kpete

(72,010 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:18 PM Jul 2013

President Carter: "America has no functioning democracy"--"The invasion of privacy has gone too far"

NSA affair: Ex-President Carter Condemns U.S. Snooping
By Gregor Peter Schmitz in Atlanta

Ex-President Carter: "The invasion of privacy has gone too far"

The Obama administration has tried to placate Europe's anger over their spying programs. Not so ex-President Jimmy Carter: The Democrat Carter sharply criticized U.S. intelligence policy. The disclosure by the whistleblower Snowden was "useful."

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter was in the wake of the NSA spying scandal criticized the American political system. "America has no functioning democracy," Carter said Tuesday at a meeting of the "Atlantic Bridge" in Atlanta.

Previously, the Democrat had been very critical of the practices of U.S. intelligence. "I think the invasion of privacy has gone too far," Carter told CNN. "And I think that is why the secrecy was excessive."

With regard to the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, Carter said his revelations were "likely to be useful because they have informed the public."


http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/nsa-affaere-jimmy-carter-kritisiert-usa-a-911589.html
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2013/07/der-spiegel-ex-president-jimmy-carter.html

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President Carter: "America has no functioning democracy"--"The invasion of privacy has gone too far" (Original Post) kpete Jul 2013 OP
For those who've said it's always been this way, take it from President Carter, it hasn't. leveymg Jul 2013 #1
Thank You For Sharing - Kick And Recomnend cantbeserious Jul 2013 #2
Another misinformed chicken little Rand Paul loving racist fake liberal. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #3
Oops..... leveymg Jul 2013 #7
Thank you, President Carter. woo me with science Jul 2013 #4
The guy I voted for in '76 was a Paulite? IDemo Jul 2013 #5
I love this man. Did anyone else wear a plastic peanut necklace in 1976? factsarenotfair Jul 2013 #6
So the former POTUS thinks it is a plutocracy too!? Rex Jul 2013 #8
Wow. I wonder if MSM will cover this much. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #9
That's got to be a mistranslation? mathematic Jul 2013 #10
It appears the quote, if accurate, was referring to campaign spending. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #12
We may be a lousy democracy...... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #11
I never knew GlashFordan Jul 2013 #13
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #14

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. For those who've said it's always been this way, take it from President Carter, it hasn't.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jul 2013

First man I ever voted for President is still the best man I ever voted for.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. So the former POTUS thinks it is a plutocracy too!?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 12:52 AM
Jul 2013

Or is he just talking about Big Brother and not the owners of Big Brother?

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
10. That's got to be a mistranslation?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:16 AM
Jul 2013

I know he's a critic but "no functioning democracy" just doesn't seem like something an ex-President would say. It appears that that's a "rough translation" of a German story that already translated Carter's remarks. (Unless he actually gave them in German). So it's a translation of a translation.

Anybody know if there's a source for his original untranslated english remarks?

SunSeeker

(51,651 posts)
12. It appears the quote, if accurate, was referring to campaign spending.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:36 AM
Jul 2013

According to Der Spiegel, Carter was in Atlanta when he said that today. But the speech he gave today in Atlanta had to do with the problems causes by the "legal bribery of candidates." As noted in another post (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3285384):
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Former President Jimmy Carter said Wednesday that unchecked political contributions are "legal bribery of candidates" and denounced a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that made possible unlimited spending by outside groups, including corporations and labor unions.

"It's accepted fact," Carter said during a speech in Atlanta. "It's legal bribery of candidates. And that repayment may be in the form of an ambassadorship to someone who has raised three or four hundred thousand dollars to help a candidate get elected."

Carter spoke at a forum where an agency of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe released its report on last year's U.S. election. The U.S. government invited the European agency to observe the process.

He said the U.S. Supreme Court made a "very stupid" decision by removing limits on independent campaign spending by businesses and labor unions, which the court found was a constitutionally protected form of political speech. The Democrat said that he and his Republican opponents used public financing to run their general election campaigns in 1976 and 1980.

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Carter said that while elections in the United States once set an example for the world, the country's reputation diminished in 2000 when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened in a Florida vote recount, effectively deciding the election in favor of Republican George W. Bush. He also criticized GOP-led state legislatures for changing polling hours in ways that Carter said were meant to frustrate likely Democratic voters.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/carter-unlimited-contributions-legal-bribery-19687763

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I would have to agree with Carter if he meant that unlimited campaign contributions are hurting our democracy. Nonetheless, even though it may be on life support, it is not dead yet.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. We may be a lousy democracy......
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:31 AM
Jul 2013

...but we make a great corporation. Cold. Calculating. Unfeeling. Money is ALL that matters.

- Yet they're a person just like you and me.....

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