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US Threatens To Eliminate Trade With Venezuela If It Provides Snowden With Asylum
Translations mineUS Threatens To Eliminate Trade With Venezuela If It Provides Snowden With Asylum
The United States could eliminate trade relations with Venezuela, including the sale of gasoline and petroleum products if the country grants asylum to former CIA agent, Edward Snowden.
The pressure expanded last Thursday when U.S. visas for senior officials of the Venezuelan government and a group of businessmen linked to the government of Nicolas Maduro were revoked said the Spain's newspaper ABC.
According to the report (information), after Snowden made a statement that he accepted political asylum in Venezuela but that his transfer would be complicated for the moment, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry contacted the Foreign Minister Elias Jaua to warn him that any Venezuelan plane suspected of transporting Edward Snowden will not be allowed to fly over U.S. airspace or the airspace of any NATO member country.
It's speculated that Washington fears Snowden can leverage his asylum in Russia and then take refuge in the Venezuelan Embassy in that country.
http://yaesnoticia.com/internacional/ee-uu-amenaza-con-eliminar-relaciones-comerciales-si-venezuela-asila-a-snowden/
The United States could eliminate trade relations with Venezuela, including the sale of gasoline and petroleum products if the country grants asylum to former CIA agent, Edward Snowden.
The pressure expanded last Thursday when U.S. visas for senior officials of the Venezuelan government and a group of businessmen linked to the government of Nicolas Maduro were revoked said the Spain's newspaper ABC.
According to the report (information), after Snowden made a statement that he accepted political asylum in Venezuela but that his transfer would be complicated for the moment, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry contacted the Foreign Minister Elias Jaua to warn him that any Venezuelan plane suspected of transporting Edward Snowden will not be allowed to fly over U.S. airspace or the airspace of any NATO member country.
It's speculated that Washington fears Snowden can leverage his asylum in Russia and then take refuge in the Venezuelan Embassy in that country.
http://yaesnoticia.com/internacional/ee-uu-amenaza-con-eliminar-relaciones-comerciales-si-venezuela-asila-a-snowden/
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July 18th, 2013 8:05 a.m.
U.S. Begins Reprisals To Forbid Venezuela From Allowing Snowden Asylum
United States has already begun to implement actions to pressure Venezuela in order to prevent the country from welcoming former U.S. intelligence employee Edward Snowden. Washington proceeded last week to revoke the U.S. entry visas of Venezuelan government officials and businessmen associated with the Chavista government. Furthermore, in a phone call, the U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, told the Venezuelan Foreign Minister Elias Jaua of other measures the U.S. will apply if Snowden's asylum is realized (is consummated), such as the suspension of sales of gasoline and oil from the Caribbean country, which is vital to maintain daily activity in Venezuela.
Kerry called Jaua on Friday night, hours after Snowden made a public statement accepting Venezuela's asylum offered, but expressed his momentary inability to leave Russia. With strong language, as described by sources familiar with the conversation, Kerry explained the extreme importance U.S. gives to this issue and warned that any Venezuelan plane suspected of carrying Snowden will not be allowed to fly over U.S. airspace or any NATO country.
Kerry hinted (made it understood) that if Snowden was on President Nicolás Maduro's Presidential Jet there would not be a repeat of what happened with the President of Bolivia, Evo Morales, after the diplomatic problems that caused, but this means Maduro would have to personally go fetch him. "The immunity is not for the plane, but for the President", stated Kerry according to sources.
...
«Means of Pressure»
The revocation of visas for senior government officials and big business entrepreneurs linked to the government has been in effect since at least last Thursday, when some of them began receiving notice from the U.S. Embassy in Caracas. The measure, which does not affect the short-term visas for visiting Venezuelans tourists, seeks to bring business and political pressure on President Maduro to stop extending his hand to the U.S. fugitive.
As possible actions, the sources also mentioned the materialization of charges against prominent Chavista leaders against whom Washington is preparing charges for involvement in drug trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities. Kerry specifically mentioned some names in his conversation with Jaua.
«Leaving from Vladivostock (Snowden) could make a single stopover in Nicaragua»
The fear in Washington is that Snowden can take advantage of a temporary asylum in Russia to leave the airport in Moscow and find refuge in the Embassy of Venezuela in the Russian capital or to move to another part of Russia from which a flight to Caracas is more feasible. If he flies out of Vladivostok, a Russian city on the Pacific coast, for example, he could make a single stop in Nicaragua, avoiding overflying other countries.
...
http://dossier33.com/2013/07/eeuu-aplica-represalias-para-que-venezuela-no-permita-asilo-a-snowden/
U.S. Begins Reprisals To Forbid Venezuela From Allowing Snowden Asylum
United States has already begun to implement actions to pressure Venezuela in order to prevent the country from welcoming former U.S. intelligence employee Edward Snowden. Washington proceeded last week to revoke the U.S. entry visas of Venezuelan government officials and businessmen associated with the Chavista government. Furthermore, in a phone call, the U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, told the Venezuelan Foreign Minister Elias Jaua of other measures the U.S. will apply if Snowden's asylum is realized (is consummated), such as the suspension of sales of gasoline and oil from the Caribbean country, which is vital to maintain daily activity in Venezuela.
Kerry called Jaua on Friday night, hours after Snowden made a public statement accepting Venezuela's asylum offered, but expressed his momentary inability to leave Russia. With strong language, as described by sources familiar with the conversation, Kerry explained the extreme importance U.S. gives to this issue and warned that any Venezuelan plane suspected of carrying Snowden will not be allowed to fly over U.S. airspace or any NATO country.
Kerry hinted (made it understood) that if Snowden was on President Nicolás Maduro's Presidential Jet there would not be a repeat of what happened with the President of Bolivia, Evo Morales, after the diplomatic problems that caused, but this means Maduro would have to personally go fetch him. "The immunity is not for the plane, but for the President", stated Kerry according to sources.
...
«Means of Pressure»
The revocation of visas for senior government officials and big business entrepreneurs linked to the government has been in effect since at least last Thursday, when some of them began receiving notice from the U.S. Embassy in Caracas. The measure, which does not affect the short-term visas for visiting Venezuelans tourists, seeks to bring business and political pressure on President Maduro to stop extending his hand to the U.S. fugitive.
As possible actions, the sources also mentioned the materialization of charges against prominent Chavista leaders against whom Washington is preparing charges for involvement in drug trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities. Kerry specifically mentioned some names in his conversation with Jaua.
«Leaving from Vladivostock (Snowden) could make a single stopover in Nicaragua»
The fear in Washington is that Snowden can take advantage of a temporary asylum in Russia to leave the airport in Moscow and find refuge in the Embassy of Venezuela in the Russian capital or to move to another part of Russia from which a flight to Caracas is more feasible. If he flies out of Vladivostok, a Russian city on the Pacific coast, for example, he could make a single stop in Nicaragua, avoiding overflying other countries.
...
http://dossier33.com/2013/07/eeuu-aplica-represalias-para-que-venezuela-no-permita-asilo-a-snowden/
The article goes on to say that President Maduro's jet is capable of handling that distance.
There are quite a few articles about this in the Latin American press this morning, like here, here
This was President Maduro's response a week ago (July 11) when pressure had already begun but before Friday's phone call.
President Maduro states that "no one can threaten us. The day Edward Snowden decides to come, we welcome him".
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Edit: the link to Spain's ABC article mentioned in the first article.
http://www.abc.es/internacional/20130718/abci-obama-presiona-venezuela-201307171953.html
Its translation is the same as the second article in the OP.
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They'd be better off firing all the blue-link MBAs and replacing them with a few people who have common sense.
thing I thought too. We're going to get screwed in higher gasoline prices and this suspension will be the 'excuse'. Count on it.
It's the book Chavez gave Obama so he could read up but speculation has it that Obama never cracked it open.
OPEN VEINS
of
LATIN AMERICA
FIVE CENTURIES OF THE PILLAGE 0F A CONTINENT
Translated by Cedric Belfrage
25TH
ANNIVERSARY EDITION
FOREWARD by Isabel Allende
It's available online in pdf format here: http://www.e-reading-lib.com/bookreader.php/149187/Open_Veins_of_Latin_America.pdf
That was back when Latin America still retained some *hope*
Did I read this right? "Kerry hinted (made it understood) that if Snowden was on President Nicolás Maduro's Presidential Jet there would not be a repeat of what happened with the President of Bolivia, Evo Morales, after the diplomatic problems that caused, but this means Maduro would have to personally go fetch him. "The immunity is not for the plane, but for the President", stated Kerry according to sources."
--The US is so desperate to get their hands on Snowden and throttle him--even to the extent of damaging diplomatic relations in South America. I hope Venezuela can hold out against this.
well-placed link....
their shuttling him off before the u.s. could start their demands of them.
best display of FU ever. lmao
actually it was more like 'go fuck yourself'. lol.
They are not desperate to get Snowden. They were writing about a fuel gauge problem.
This map proves it:
It's hard for me to fathom why posters don't even maintain a basic level of independent thinking when a story comes out that is so out of character and yet fits a preconceived narrative.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
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has learned the hard way, will continue to punish the small-fry who has angered him for decades. 
Too bad the people have to pay every time at the pump.
You are using information from a RW rag purporting to have information coming from an anonymous source,
El Universal
It is considered to be conservative and business-oriented,[1] though it has at times both supported and criticized the policies of former President Hugo Chávez. On the morning of 13 April 2002, when the removal of Hugo Chavez in what later came to be referred to as the 2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt appeared a success, the paper headlined ¡Un Paso Adelante! (One Step Forward!).[2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Universal_%28Caracas%29
It is considered to be conservative and business-oriented,[1] though it has at times both supported and criticized the policies of former President Hugo Chávez. On the morning of 13 April 2002, when the removal of Hugo Chavez in what later came to be referred to as the 2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt appeared a success, the paper headlined ¡Un Paso Adelante! (One Step Forward!).[2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Universal_%28Caracas%29
Discussed in this thread but posting here since the America First and America Only crowd is always trying to pass off piss as lemonade:
"Venezuela has terminated talks with the United States"
19 July 2013
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http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/actualidad/politica/este-es-el-comunicado-con-el-que-venezuela-termina.aspx
Kerry's bullying phone call, (here and here), Samantha Powers insults, and the US government's refusal to correct her statement, didn't go over well.
Things are zipping right along. We're winning hearts and minds everywhere this month.
"Venezuela has terminated talks with the United States"
19 July 2013
Cancillería Vzla ?@vencancilleria
[COMMUNIQUE] The Bolivarian Government has terminated talks that were aimed at regularizing diplomatic relations with the USA
https://twitter.com/vencancilleria/status/358433609109078017
[COMMUNIQUE] The Bolivarian Government has terminated talks that were aimed at regularizing diplomatic relations with the USA
https://twitter.com/vencancilleria/status/358433609109078017
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http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/actualidad/politica/este-es-el-comunicado-con-el-que-venezuela-termina.aspx
Translation mine
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs categorically rejects the statements issued to the Foreign Relations Committee of the U.S. Senate, by Samantha Power, candidate for Ambassador of that country to the Organization of the United Nations, where she claimed it would be part of her work to "fight the repression of civil society" conducted by several countries, among them Venezuela.
Her disrespectful opinions were endorsed and supported by the State Department today, contradicting the tone and content of the statements made by the Secretary of State John Kerry, in his June meetings with the Chancellor of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Elias Jaua, in the city of Antigua, Guatemala.
The concerns expressed by the U.S. government about the alleged repression in Venezuela into civil society are unacceptable and unfounded; on the contrary, the Bolivarian Government of Venezuela has amply demonstrated that it possesses a strong system of constitutional guarantees to preserve the practice of and unconditional respect for fundamental human rights, as has been recognized by the United Nations on many occasions and situations (scenarios).
However, the world constantly expresses concern about the repressive practices exercised by the United States, including the violation of human rights in the illegal internment camp of Guantanamo, the massacres of civilians by drones and the lamentable persecution unleashed against Edward Snowden, a victim of fierce repression, for exercising his right to dissent and denouncing practices of the Government of the United States which violate, among other things, the right to privacy of all people in the world, enshrined in Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, in addition to the blatant intent to violate the rules governing the right to asylum, widely recognized by civilized nations.
The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela reiterates that, as has been expressed by the President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, in order to build a good relationship with the U.S. government, requires practicing mutual respect and the full and total recognition of the principles of sovereignty and self-determination.
The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela will never accept interference of any kind in its internal affairs. Due to the backing of the State Department for interventionist agenda raised by the candidate Ambassador, Samatha Power, the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela terminates the processes initiated during the Guatemala talks, which were designed to stabilize our diplomatic relations.
Caracas, 19 July 2013
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs categorically rejects the statements issued to the Foreign Relations Committee of the U.S. Senate, by Samantha Power, candidate for Ambassador of that country to the Organization of the United Nations, where she claimed it would be part of her work to "fight the repression of civil society" conducted by several countries, among them Venezuela.
Her disrespectful opinions were endorsed and supported by the State Department today, contradicting the tone and content of the statements made by the Secretary of State John Kerry, in his June meetings with the Chancellor of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Elias Jaua, in the city of Antigua, Guatemala.
The concerns expressed by the U.S. government about the alleged repression in Venezuela into civil society are unacceptable and unfounded; on the contrary, the Bolivarian Government of Venezuela has amply demonstrated that it possesses a strong system of constitutional guarantees to preserve the practice of and unconditional respect for fundamental human rights, as has been recognized by the United Nations on many occasions and situations (scenarios).
However, the world constantly expresses concern about the repressive practices exercised by the United States, including the violation of human rights in the illegal internment camp of Guantanamo, the massacres of civilians by drones and the lamentable persecution unleashed against Edward Snowden, a victim of fierce repression, for exercising his right to dissent and denouncing practices of the Government of the United States which violate, among other things, the right to privacy of all people in the world, enshrined in Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, in addition to the blatant intent to violate the rules governing the right to asylum, widely recognized by civilized nations.
The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela reiterates that, as has been expressed by the President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, in order to build a good relationship with the U.S. government, requires practicing mutual respect and the full and total recognition of the principles of sovereignty and self-determination.
The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela will never accept interference of any kind in its internal affairs. Due to the backing of the State Department for interventionist agenda raised by the candidate Ambassador, Samatha Power, the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela terminates the processes initiated during the Guatemala talks, which were designed to stabilize our diplomatic relations.
Caracas, 19 July 2013
“The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela will never accept meddling in its internal affairs. We reject the fact that a nominee for the post of UN ambassador has interference in Venezuela on her agenda,” said Elias Jaua, the Venezuelan minister of foreign affairs.
http://rt.com/news/venezuela-ends-dialogue-us-relations-352/
http://rt.com/news/venezuela-ends-dialogue-us-relations-352/
Kerry's bullying phone call, (here and here), Samantha Powers insults, and the US government's refusal to correct her statement, didn't go over well.
Things are zipping right along. We're winning hearts and minds everywhere this month.
The hopeful possibility that the neanderthals that inhabit D.C. will piss enough people off so nobody will trade with the US 
They're crawling all over here lately. And we got em all including self described anarchists feeding and sucking off the teat of the MIC as they back up ever neoliberal policy and candidate out there, especially Latin American neoliberal candidates. The worst, most loathsome here, hanging around in the Latin America forum, are from Fort Carson Colorado that has a special unit devoted to this shit. I'm sure no * Farmville anarchists* here know anything about that- Trolls pretending to represent the *working class" they betray with every breath.
