Unfortunately, everybody (on the jury) loves an asshole.

Normal 8-year-olds don't go around sexually abusing younger relatives.

Most eight year olds are very innocent about sex or sex play. It would not occur to them unless they had been introduced to it by someone else, someone older.

I get the feeling parents are very sensitive about this. And I also get the feeling almost all of them sucked as parents, even when they think they were adequate.

Truly together people are one in a million. Literally that rare. Everyone else has issues. Racism, violence, need to become a Congressman. Haha.

ESPECIALLY "Everyone else has issues. Racism, violence, need to become a Congressman."

when an older child is intimately touching another without consent,
it's abuse, period.

the racist comments made in the presence of the cousin.

Martin case.

Don't know why, maybe someone has a link to an explanation for that? Maybe they were saving her for the rebuttal, but again, they didn't use her.

Here is an article from a year ago, it looks like.

this makes it more difficult for the defense to prepare for the prosecution's case. They never intended to call her during the trial..she didn't have anything to relevant to this case..if he were convicted most states allow for these types of witnesses at the sentencing..It would have been impossible for her to open her mouth on the stand without a sustained objection..

Zimmerman is in his late 20s.

Did this just happen (as an adult) or is she saying this happened as they were both children/teens?

"He was bigger" didn't tell the story..how many years separate them?

So when she was 6, he was 8.

chances are good he was molested or otherwise sexualized at an early age..

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she was six I'm not sure what the response to that would be. Usually eight year old children are not held criminally responsible. Probably the worst they would have done is put him in counseling.

is not helpful. It is bombastic and low.
The gun nuts have plenty going against them as it is.

And, yes-if GZ molested children, he was most likely abused in the past.
It's like, a pattern or a cycle.

I have not laughed that hard in years.

Sorry, I know this is a very serious topic.

I just realized what you were talking about!



YOIKS!!! That sends this whole sordid tale into a whole new dimension.

a nut with a gun..he owned one single $200 Kel-Tec..no real gun nut would only own one gun and if they did, it wouldn't be a Kel-Tec..

Between that and his killing of Martin I would say there is a good chance the guy will end up in jail sometime in the future for something.

he could get even creepier.

family visits. He managed to talk enough for them to make a book deal. And she said she swayed a couple of the jurors to vote for acquittal.

Hope she's proud of what' she's done.

indication of racism?

I listened to the recording of this woman and she is a total basket case and still suffers psychologically. She was sure that he would be convicted and seemed to feel that her nightmare with him was over. Just think what she must be going through now, with him on the loose with that GD gun and 100 more pounds on his body. If I was her, I would have my name changed, move to Timbuktu, get psychological counseling and make a new life for myself. Sounds easy, but she may be in a position that she can't do any of those things. That's the sad part. I hope she figures it all out and gets the help she needs.

But even POS have a right to a fair trial.

He is a bully & a coward of the first degree.

That being said, he still has problems.
Anyways, he gives me the creeps when I look at him...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Florida_vs._George_Zimmerman

Took me almost an hour to read -

But made me rethink my previous conclusions.

Gotta read it all - picking pieces out of context like the media does ain't going to get you anywhere near the truth.

I think Jimmy Carter has it right.

CC

When I was a CASA I discovered that the ones who wanted complete control over the children were molesters. My children were molested or abused in almost all of their homes (9 homes in all) It is disgusting.

Rules of Evidence prohibits introduction of evidence of bad character or prior bad acts unless it goes to motive or specific pattern of behavior.

If the allegations are true, though, it's pretty sickening.

Even if they keep the Stand Your Ground law, background checks to own or use any gun or rifle will make it easier to confront. NRA says no.

is actually the new head of the Taliban, he made billions in human trafficking, he rapes both boys and girls, does lines off coke of the butts of teenage slave prostitutes, he is a purse snatcher, a march of dimes scam artist, he shot JR back in the 80's AND killed Jimmy Hoffa. George Zimmerman is a big banker billionaire who got acquitted because of his MOB connections and his political affiliations, he once took candy from a baby and murdered a nun with it, he eats endangered species, he caused the gulf oil spill, he farts in church, he is the leader of a vast conspiracy to kill minority citizens, and Ford signed a contract with him to advertise their new line of trucks. He runs illegal gambling rings, is the porn king of Florida, an illegal arms dealer, he once peed in the ocean. George Zimmerman kills baby seals using orphaned children as a club, he sneezed on the salad bar, he bankrupted Detroit, he is the grand wizard of the KKK, the leader if the IRA, a PLO combatant, he is the stone supplier for Saudi Arabian execution squads, and he meets with the pope to set religious agenda. George Zimmerman once called me a racial slur, or at least he would have if I had ever met him. Just because his mother is Hispanic, that doesn't prove he aint white, and he pokes small animals with sticks.

-or- he is what he really is, an over zealous self appointed street do-gooder that got away with killing another person, because the state went for the long ball, "Second degree murder" instead of manslaughter. After they put up a half hearted case for 2nd degree murder, "well it COULD also be manslaughter" sounded weak, and bingo bango a killer walks free. He killed another person for no justifiable reason, but because the prosecution hand jobbed it's case,...... he is free to go. Whatever he is accused of doing tomorrow, I'm confident I expressed it first.

I heard he and his wife attempted to illegally transfer money from his jail cell using a simplistic code worthy of idiots (which has been expressed previously).

a financial wizard, a junk bond trader, a Cuban refugee smuggler and a forgery expert. He bit off Captain Hook's hand and blamed the crocodile.

He will be charged with illegally transferring money right before Holder charges him with a federal hate crime, that will be sometime in the distant "never gonna happen". Zimmerman killed Martin, ....unjustifiably,.......the prosecution screwed themselves, AND the Martin family out of justice by not going for manslaughter, they made a bad decision about the charge and compounded the bad call with a poor performance. No amount of outrage over anything else Zimmerman did/didn't do, will sweeten that bitter pill.

manslaughter would have put him in prison for 30 years, and no rational person could have possibly disagreed with the unnecessary, uncalled for and unjustified killing of Martin. The second degree murder charge should have been manslaughter from the beginning, hurled out as "an option" after the performance the prosecution put on was a disgrace. Zimmerman was not of the mindset to commit second degree murder and the prosecution PROVED that for the defense.

if Juror B37's attorney husband discussed the trial at all, at family visiting time, with any of the jurors, including his wife, wouldn't that be enough to overturn the outcome and have the trial declared null and void. Surely no lawyer would be THAT imprudent.

Jerry Sandusky molested children and years later he is certainly being punished. Why not Zimmerman? If he did this as a 19 year old he was no longer a minor. Inserting fingers or anything in a vagina is certainly rape and should be punished. I remember this cousin when Reverend Al Sharpton first started campaigning for Zimmerman's arrest.

And a coward. And a liar.

I hate that he alone gets to write the legacy of the last moments of young Travon's life.

I have taken some solice in making my own imagery of Travon just kicking his ass all over that yard. My hero.

Zimmerman-apologists swarm to his rescue yet again. Even if the two-year age difference doesn't make him a child molester, he remains an insecure coward with control issues.

It was Trayvon Martin who deserved a fair trial, but Zimmerman got exonerated because of a racist judicial system and a bigoted jury who all worked very hard to condone murder.

It is too late to prosecute, but she may be able to sue.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/floridas-statute-of-limitations-of-sexual-abuse.html

Zimmermann grew up in Virginia, so if the incidents happened there, he could get sued/prosecuted for as long as 20 YEARS after such abuse!

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+8.01-243