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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor those who haven't seen this video, it's worth watching !!!
WTSP-ABCNews Tampa/St. Pete
Sanford Police security video showing George Zimmerman in custody on the night of the Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://www.wtsp.com/video/1543788795001/0/George-Zimmerman-Police-Security-Video
After watching this, I have a few questions.
Where's the blood?
There's no blood on his nose.
There's no blood on his shirt or jacket.
And, when he turns his head, there's no blood on the back of his head.
There is speculation that the EMT's cleaned him up before leaving the scene,
but, then when and where were the pictures taken that showed the bloody
nose and head?
Is there something rotten in the state of Denmark?
I tried to load the video, but didn't know how.
The link was the best I could do.
If you know how to post video, please feel free to post on DU.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Zimmerman refused medical treatment and had no blood or cuts or broken nose, as can be seen at the police station. He got away with murder.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Original Video:
ABC Enhanced Video which supposedly "shows the gash"
The appeared-weeks-later photo which was entered into evidence:
I think Zimmerman manufactured evidence and more than a few people committed perjury.
ABC was clearly trying to help Zimmerman, but only highlighted the perjury.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)were taken by his neighbor right after the incident happened.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)The bleeding stopped and the paramedics cleaned him up.
But what does it matter? There was a fight between Zimmerman and Martin. Three witnesses saw it, more than that heard it.
I don't get why people are trying to claim that there wasn't a fight.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)something like a shower would have been needed - yet the second photo shows dried blood spots that doesn't match the first.
But what does it matter? Perjury. Lots of it.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)I mean his neighbor was right on the scene and took the picture. There were people all over right on the scene.
I'm not sure why you think it is such a big deal that by the time he got to the police department his head had been cleaned up.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)his head doesn't even look like there has been any injury.
Also, all the stories seem to be based on Zimmerman's account.
"Stand your ground" now means open season on "Your Only Witness".
Rex
(65,616 posts)He could have slipped and fell down in the rain. Why didn't he have EMS clean him up? Why refuse medical treatment, unless you are trying to hide something imo.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)I don't understand why refusing going to the hospital is such a big deal. Twice I have been in car accidents and refused to go because I didn't think I needed it, not because I was hiding something.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Well, he shot and KILLED someone, so your instances and his are really not the same thing at all are they?
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)A normal person who doesn't think he needs medical attention turns down medical attention.
They were in a fight. Do you deny that?
Rex
(65,616 posts)the sidewalk? You should read up more on this case - Zimmerman's lies are so easy to pick apart.
Obviously there was a fight, Martin is dead from a gunshot. Do you deny Zimmerman killed an unarmed boy?
All I am arguing here is that there was a fight, during which Zimmerman received certain minor injuries.
That is the only thing I am arguing here, and it's about the only thing about the whole case that is 100% fact.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)But in your conspiracy theory you think all 3 witnesses fabricated a physical altercation and that I suppose, Zimmerman gave himself his injuries and later the police and prosecutors colluded to help him on that.. or something.
Rex
(65,616 posts)You have nothing just like I thought, have a great day refuting nothing.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)I have three witnesses who said there was a fight, and injuries on both sides of Zimmerman's head.
You are the one making up "could have"s.
Rex
(65,616 posts)You can pretend you have a point, but there is no there there. Just like I knew all along. You have nothing but 3 peoples stating something different, which one do you believe out of the 3?
NM. Your obviously are not interested in a debate, you ignore my questions so off with you now!
Scoot scoot scoot!
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)I believe all three. There was a physical fight. You think Zim "could have" slipped and fallen in the rain and gotten injuries on both the front and back of his head.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)in my opinion.
Hair is longer then the second photo, and first photo has male pattern baldness, which
the second photo doesn't, and the same reason the previous poster mentioned.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I don't get why people make up stuff that didn't happen.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)But I'm not sure that getting cleaned up and "medical treatment" are the same thing.
As for "making things up", I'm not the one with the conspiracy theories.
There were three witnesses to the fight. I don't see why it's such a stretch to think that Zim might have gotten minor injuries in a fight.
Rex
(65,616 posts)to believe them and not the fact that he might have fallen down in the rain? I guess if people decided that it as possible, it would null and void his entire story about defending himself. So I see why they ignore the obvious.
Which story do you believe? The one that Zimmerman is on top or the one that Martin is on top? It cannot be BOTH stories are true.
Why refuse medical treatment after you nearly had your head 'bashed in'? Seems kinda like a lie...but hey no doubt Zimmerman defenders will tell you Zim did nothing wrong.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)It was dark. They disagree who was on top. Still: There was a fight.
Why do you insist on denying that there was a fight?
Also, as to our earlier discussion:
I was correct. His head was cleaned up between the pictures taken on the scene and the police station according to the police report.
Rex
(65,616 posts)why refuse medical attention after a near death fight? Of course there was a fight, Martin died after Zimmerman blew a hole in his heart...do you deny that?
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)so there is an explanation about why his head was cleaned up, great.
He refused medical attention because he didn't think he needed it.
Of course I don't deny that Zimmerman shot him.
I am not the one with the crazy conspiracy theories that go against:
A. All known facts
B. Picture Evidence
C. Defense's position
D. Prosecutor's position
E. Police reports.
Please, I am done arguing conspiracy theories.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I knew you had nothing from the beginning, you may go now.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)LOL.
You are the one who ignores all facts in favor of a conspiracy theory.
Rex
(65,616 posts)What a waste of time now, you may leave.
You sound like you are itching for a fight. You will appear much more understandable when you get off the high horse. That dismissive thing at the end must make you feel like a powerful person. Good for you.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Why would I care about a joke poster like you? Did I make you mad bro? TS.
azmom
(5,208 posts)head pics. But the one with the bloody nose was supposedly taken at the scene. I remember one of the witnesses saying in court that they asked her to identify Zimmerman that night and instead of looking at him in person she asked if they could take a photo of him so she could identify him. They did and that is the photo we see of Zimmerman's bloody nose.
azmom
(5,208 posts)now. One of the pictures of his bloody head was taken by one of the witnesses at the scene. I think it was the neighbor that was there first.