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aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:17 PM Jul 2013

For those who haven't seen this video, it's worth watching !!!

WTSP-ABCNews Tampa/St. Pete

Sanford Police security video showing George Zimmerman in custody on the night of the Trayvon Martin shooting.

http://www.wtsp.com/video/1543788795001/0/George-Zimmerman-Police-Security-Video

After watching this, I have a few questions.
Where's the blood?
There's no blood on his nose.
There's no blood on his shirt or jacket.
And, when he turns his head, there's no blood on the back of his head.

There is speculation that the EMT's cleaned him up before leaving the scene,
but, then when and where were the pictures taken that showed the bloody
nose and head?

Is there something rotten in the state of Denmark?

I tried to load the video, but didn't know how.
The link was the best I could do.

If you know how to post video, please feel free to post on DU.

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For those who haven't seen this video, it's worth watching !!! (Original Post) aggiesal Jul 2013 OP
Oh there is very much something rotten in Denmark. Rex Jul 2013 #1
It gets better: Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #2
The bloody nose and head pictures naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #3
So...Which photo is real? Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #4
both naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #5
Cleaned him up twice? And to erase the massive blood from the first photo.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #6
So what do you think happened? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #7
In the video . . . aggiesal Jul 2013 #9
Nobody was there until after he shot Martin with his gun. Rex Jul 2013 #10
There were people there within seconds. naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #12
Yes, after he shot and killed Martin there were people there in seconds. Rex Jul 2013 #13
The point is naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #15
After in their own words, they nearly died getting their head bashed into Rex Jul 2013 #17
Huh? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #19
Yes there was a fight and Zimmerman killed Martin with a gun. Rex Jul 2013 #21
Right naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #23
I said he could have slipped in the rain that is all. Rex Jul 2013 #25
could have.. naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #27
Bullshit, I agreed there was a fight, otherwise why did Zim shoot Martin. Rex Jul 2013 #29
Actually, you ignored my questions naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #32
There's no way the first photo is Zimmerman . . . aggiesal Jul 2013 #8
He refused medical treatment so no, the paramedics did not clean him up. Rex Jul 2013 #11
I'll do more research naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #14
Yes and the witnesses all tell a different story, why do you so want Rex Jul 2013 #16
So you think all 3 witnesses lied? Just made it up? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #18
But not by EMS, his wife cleaned him up Rex Jul 2013 #20
OK fine, naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #22
Yeah I know, you cannot argue the easy facts. Rex Jul 2013 #24
facts? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #26
Keep ignoring what I am saying, you seem to be good at it. Rex Jul 2013 #31
Get a grip Rex ksoze Jul 2013 #28
LOL! This from ksoze. Rex Jul 2013 #30
I'm not sure about the back of the azmom Jul 2013 #33
Oh yes, I remember azmom Jul 2013 #34
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. Oh there is very much something rotten in Denmark.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jul 2013

Zimmerman refused medical treatment and had no blood or cuts or broken nose, as can be seen at the police station. He got away with murder.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
2. It gets better:
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jul 2013

Original Video:



ABC Enhanced Video which supposedly "shows the gash"



The appeared-weeks-later photo which was entered into evidence:



I think Zimmerman manufactured evidence and more than a few people committed perjury.

ABC was clearly trying to help Zimmerman, but only highlighted the perjury.




 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
5. both
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jul 2013

The bleeding stopped and the paramedics cleaned him up.

But what does it matter? There was a fight between Zimmerman and Martin. Three witnesses saw it, more than that heard it.

I don't get why people are trying to claim that there wasn't a fight.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
6. Cleaned him up twice? And to erase the massive blood from the first photo....
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jul 2013

something like a shower would have been needed - yet the second photo shows dried blood spots that doesn't match the first.

But what does it matter? Perjury. Lots of it.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
7. So what do you think happened?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jul 2013

I mean his neighbor was right on the scene and took the picture. There were people all over right on the scene.

I'm not sure why you think it is such a big deal that by the time he got to the police department his head had been cleaned up.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
9. In the video . . .
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jul 2013

his head doesn't even look like there has been any injury.

Also, all the stories seem to be based on Zimmerman's account.
"Stand your ground" now means open season on "Your Only Witness".

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Nobody was there until after he shot Martin with his gun.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jul 2013

He could have slipped and fell down in the rain. Why didn't he have EMS clean him up? Why refuse medical treatment, unless you are trying to hide something imo.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
12. There were people there within seconds.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jul 2013

I don't understand why refusing going to the hospital is such a big deal. Twice I have been in car accidents and refused to go because I didn't think I needed it, not because I was hiding something.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Yes, after he shot and killed Martin there were people there in seconds.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jul 2013

Well, he shot and KILLED someone, so your instances and his are really not the same thing at all are they?

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
15. The point is
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jul 2013

A normal person who doesn't think he needs medical attention turns down medical attention.

They were in a fight. Do you deny that?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. After in their own words, they nearly died getting their head bashed into
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

the sidewalk? You should read up more on this case - Zimmerman's lies are so easy to pick apart.

Obviously there was a fight, Martin is dead from a gunshot. Do you deny Zimmerman killed an unarmed boy?

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
19. Huh?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:54 PM
Jul 2013

All I am arguing here is that there was a fight, during which Zimmerman received certain minor injuries.

That is the only thing I am arguing here, and it's about the only thing about the whole case that is 100% fact.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
23. Right
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jul 2013

But in your conspiracy theory you think all 3 witnesses fabricated a physical altercation and that I suppose, Zimmerman gave himself his injuries and later the police and prosecutors colluded to help him on that.. or something.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. I said he could have slipped in the rain that is all.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

You have nothing just like I thought, have a great day refuting nothing.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
27. could have..
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jul 2013

I have three witnesses who said there was a fight, and injuries on both sides of Zimmerman's head.

You are the one making up "could have"s.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Bullshit, I agreed there was a fight, otherwise why did Zim shoot Martin.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jul 2013

You can pretend you have a point, but there is no there there. Just like I knew all along. You have nothing but 3 peoples stating something different, which one do you believe out of the 3?

NM. Your obviously are not interested in a debate, you ignore my questions so off with you now!


Scoot scoot scoot!

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
32. Actually, you ignored my questions
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jul 2013

I believe all three. There was a physical fight. You think Zim "could have" slipped and fallen in the rain and gotten injuries on both the front and back of his head.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
8. There's no way the first photo is Zimmerman . . .
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jul 2013

in my opinion.

Hair is longer then the second photo, and first photo has male pattern baldness, which
the second photo doesn't, and the same reason the previous poster mentioned.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. He refused medical treatment so no, the paramedics did not clean him up.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jul 2013

I don't get why people make up stuff that didn't happen.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
14. I'll do more research
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jul 2013

But I'm not sure that getting cleaned up and "medical treatment" are the same thing.

As for "making things up", I'm not the one with the conspiracy theories.

There were three witnesses to the fight. I don't see why it's such a stretch to think that Zim might have gotten minor injuries in a fight.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Yes and the witnesses all tell a different story, why do you so want
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:50 PM
Jul 2013

to believe them and not the fact that he might have fallen down in the rain? I guess if people decided that it as possible, it would null and void his entire story about defending himself. So I see why they ignore the obvious.

Which story do you believe? The one that Zimmerman is on top or the one that Martin is on top? It cannot be BOTH stories are true.

Why refuse medical treatment after you nearly had your head 'bashed in'? Seems kinda like a lie...but hey no doubt Zimmerman defenders will tell you Zim did nothing wrong.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
18. So you think all 3 witnesses lied? Just made it up?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

It was dark. They disagree who was on top. Still: There was a fight.

Why do you insist on denying that there was a fight?

Also, as to our earlier discussion:

I was correct. His head was cleaned up between the pictures taken on the scene and the police station according to the police report.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. But not by EMS, his wife cleaned him up
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jul 2013

why refuse medical attention after a near death fight? Of course there was a fight, Martin died after Zimmerman blew a hole in his heart...do you deny that?

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
22. OK fine,
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jul 2013

so there is an explanation about why his head was cleaned up, great.

He refused medical attention because he didn't think he needed it.

Of course I don't deny that Zimmerman shot him.

I am not the one with the crazy conspiracy theories that go against:

A. All known facts
B. Picture Evidence
C. Defense's position
D. Prosecutor's position
E. Police reports.

Please, I am done arguing conspiracy theories.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. Yeah I know, you cannot argue the easy facts.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

I knew you had nothing from the beginning, you may go now.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. Keep ignoring what I am saying, you seem to be good at it.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jul 2013

What a waste of time now, you may leave.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
28. Get a grip Rex
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jul 2013

You sound like you are itching for a fight. You will appear much more understandable when you get off the high horse. That dismissive thing at the end must make you feel like a powerful person. Good for you.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. LOL! This from ksoze.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jul 2013

Why would I care about a joke poster like you? Did I make you mad bro? TS.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
33. I'm not sure about the back of the
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jul 2013

head pics. But the one with the bloody nose was supposedly taken at the scene. I remember one of the witnesses saying in court that they asked her to identify Zimmerman that night and instead of looking at him in person she asked if they could take a photo of him so she could identify him. They did and that is the photo we see of Zimmerman's bloody nose.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
34. Oh yes, I remember
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jul 2013

now. One of the pictures of his bloody head was taken by one of the witnesses at the scene. I think it was the neighbor that was there first.

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