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ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)We each get, what, about 70 years to live on this earth and this is how they spend our energy? This is how they spend the sweat of our labor?
There's no excuse. None.
Beautifully said.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I hate war.
Once in war you can never completely get away from it.
It becomes part of who you are
Whether you want it to be or not
indepat
(20,899 posts)and awe in Iraq wrought on a nation of some 25 million people, either that or they don't give a rat's ass just like countless millions of Americans must not give a rat's ass that an unarmed child was fatally wounded by a grown man with a hand-gun in FL who was acquitted of all criminal charges 'cause: FL law was interpreted as if the shooter had tantamount to a license to kill. Somehow I get the idea that those who didn't give a rat's ass about what was wrought on the Iraqi people are basically the same people who don't give a rat's ass about a child, Trayvon Martin, being fatally wounded by an adult packing heat.
madokie
(51,076 posts)It hurts knowing where we are as a nation today, to us here and to those abroad.
We have fallen so far so quick
indepat
(20,899 posts)spread upon us and mushroomed into the cult-like religion for the true believer.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)our WMDs especially in Fallujah where many families have watched their newborns suffer and die before they reach the age of one year. As one mother said 'we are afraid to have any more children'. Their government doesn't care and in fact has made it difficult for reporters to do interviews with doctors.
War is a crime of massive proportions especially when it was based on lies so blatant you would think someone would have been held accountable for what is a genocidal slaughter of hundreds of thousands, with the numbers rising and going into the next, who knows, how many generations.
But when a government does not have the ethics to hold it own war criminals accountable, that diminishes the lives of each and every victim, including our own troops. So it should not be surprising to see a society that has lost its ability to empathize with other human beings. We are paying the price right here.
Not to mention the enormous numbers of our troops who are unable to go on living because of what the War Criminals forced to see and do and are committing suicide at an alarming rate. While the War Criminals live in luxury and are treated like elder statesmen and women.
indepat
(20,899 posts)void of empathy, and hence humanity, imo.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)there helped keep Americans 'protected' from the gruesomeness of that horrific enterprise. What happened in Iraq was monstrous, there is no other word I can think of to describe it.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)If there are no more Iraqi babies, then we have permanently eliminated the problem, right?
Or at least it will make it much easier for George P Bush to invade in 25 years.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)That's why I refuse to call them pro-life. They are pro-forced-birthing in my book.
we feel it, just can't acknowledge it
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)war makes money
And by allowing gays to serve openly, and women in active duty combat, they are insuring they will have enough bodies err soldiers for more wars for decades to come.
Now don't mis understand. i love the equality but I don't think that was our government's true intent. There just aren't enough straight poor boys to send off to war. They needed to open the doors to new areas. I have quite a few friends who are recruiters they avg maybe two recruits per month.
Even with Bush gone our country is not planning for peace, it is planning for more wars.
I guess there is more money in tearing people down, than there is in building people up.
live love laugh
(13,112 posts)at our country, my family, the guy next door--people just walked around oblivious to the fact that we were killing thousands for no reason. And the glamorizing of war and the military was even more disgusting--and it continues.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)his mother.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)"Blood a necklace on me all my life"
Michael Ondaatje,
'The collected works of Billy the Kid'
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)malaise
(269,004 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)I protested back then. There wasn't as much support as they wanted to claim, even with the media constantly banging the drums and Colin Powell lying his ass off to the UN.
Funny thing though- our Dem leaders swung it for them. Hillary and others supporting the war upped the trust factor for some odd reason.
The leaders led, and the followers were silent.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)of foreign policy, including Mrs. Clinton. (A decision that cost her the election.)
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)So moving
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Much appreciated
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)grilled onions
(1,957 posts)On the one side you have widows,orphans,land that's raped,landmarks destroyed and a huge waste of natural resources,money wasted on weapons,bullets and killing machines. None of this destruction can be undone.
On the other side you have politicians who get in office or stay in office by talking the war game. They have little interest in what the little voters want but have a huge interest in what corporations involved in the war machine want and they are a willing shill. Companies that have a desire to overtake the resources of a country want to jump in with both feet and will do their part to shove the population out of the way so they can grab land,oil,water,etc in whatever country they decide to "help".
No matter who "wins"a war the first group never recover from the damage done. No matter who "wins" the second group will continue to try and create reasons for wars no matter how weak the excuses are nor how many lies have to be tosses around.
Bo
(1,080 posts)Chaney's war will have repercussions for years
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)That picture is heartbreaking.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mahatma Gandhi, "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
Mahatma Gandhi
Thank you. I'm proud to stand by you.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)& Rec !!!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)We were out in the streets, marching side by side before hanging out at Tommy's.
We said no! And what did we get? More war. More drones. Secret courts making secret rulings. Less jobs. More homelessness but oh the profits are UP!
tblue
(16,350 posts)I'm so sorry, baby. I am so so so sorry!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Not that it will make his momma come back but just to be there for him.
I will go to my death cursing ALL of those who ever, even in the slightest, ever supported and helped these wars.
dusty trails
(174 posts)Is that the democracy Bush said we were bringing to Iraq?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Since when does democracy mean orphans and profit?
dusty trails
(174 posts)You didn't really think Bush lied us in the Iraq War because of (non-existent) WMD, did you?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)or repeatedly bombing Al-Jazeera offices. These puppies are really sick, counting their profits as little people all over the world, to include our own country, suffer. If we live to see them hanging from ropes, Mussolini-style, I'll die happy.
dusty trails
(174 posts)"The narrator is saying (and this is translated verbatim, so it's less beautiful than if I translated it in kind):
this son, his mother was killed, and he's drawn this to show you how much he needs her tenderness. but look what he's done now, he laid his cheek on the picture he's drawn of her, and you, if your mother is here, have you given her what she deserves of your tenderness?"
http://dailyoftheday.com/not-exactly-but-still-sad/
Catherina
(35,568 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Just think of the resources that are controlled now!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Gawd how sick.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)If I was an Iraqi.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)except for an accident of birth. And people dare ask why some of us won't mindlessly wave flags.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)won't mindlessly support a democratic administration that continues some of the worst policies enacted during the bush regime.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)mc51tc
(219 posts)65 people killed and 190 wounded in Iraq, worst violence since 2008
"A wave of bombings on Saturday night in Baghdad province have killed 65 people and wounded 190, officials said. Iraq has seen its worst violence since 2008; over 520 people have died in July."
and we wonder why the rest of the world looks at the USA as the bully out of control. The people of Iraq will never forget.
http://rt.com/news/killed-baghdad-bombings-violence-374/
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Just pull out the plug that feeds war, hate, racism, fear, pain, suffering, deceit, greed, apathy, narcissism, religion?
Rex
(65,616 posts)and yet we let the warmongers get away with it! That picture SHOULD haunt every person live...but the people that start these wars have no soul.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)greenman3610
(3,947 posts)<sarcasm>
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Paulie
(8,462 posts)kidgie
(20 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)I have to say that I feel very conflicted about Iraq. I lived there for about a year in 1979 and 1980 and can tell you that Saddam Hussein was a horrible person and the Iraqi people were terrified of him. He deserved to be put down and I was convinced that getting him out of power was the right thing to do. Seeing how things still are over there, I'm not as convinced as I once was. In any case, I feel for any child that is orphaned.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)over any of this. We have caused untold tragedies from the ME to Africa and to Latin America by our support for Dictators who ruined their countries, with our support.
We have a habit of backing dictators until they get a little arrogant, then we go in cause even more tragedy for the innocent.
We are still supporting Dictators who are cruelly torturing and killing their own citizens while we reward them for their behavior. See Karamov of Uzbekistan, Bahrain to name just two.
We need to come home, to stop interfering in other countries. We have enough resources here to take care of ourselves.
The creation and backing of dictators is for the profiteers and no one else. And it has been going for decades.
No matter how bad Saddam Hussein was what we did to the those people was even worse, as they, themselves have said, over and over again.
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)K&R
My heart weeps for this little boy and all the other innocents left behind by their beloveds. Innocent beloveds who were felled by our wicked MIC.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)people would wake up and doing something about the harm we have done throughout the world. Simply to protect corporatist and their profit making ventures. How do you replace someone's mother?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)This is a breech of justice. They are war criminals. Hear that Mr. President?