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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:54 AM Jul 2013

Jaw-droppingly racist quote from an HOA board representative in my newspaper

Last edited Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:51 AM - Edit history (1)

As a background, every Sunday my newspaper interviews various people around the local community to get their take on the week's stories.

On the panel this week was a gentleman by the name of Fred Carlson. Carlson is listed as being an "advocate" for the Central Beach Alliance, and is listed on their website as being on the board of directors. From what I gather, the Central Beach Alliance is a large umbrella association of the various condominium and residential community HOAs along the coast in the Broward County, Florida area.

Anyways, as to the verdict in the Zimmerman trial, Carlson writes:

"The Zimmerman jurors rose above the prejudice of the judge, the drama-seeking media, the prosecutor, the vicious racism of the liberal establishment in Washington and sadly, that of a vocal segment of the black population. "Hold on," you might say, "What about white racism?" Reverse the color of Zimmerman and Martin. To have a black neighborhood watch guy would seem to be playing with fire. Would he be fair to a teenage white guy in a hoodie? Yes, it would be OK if the black watch guy was a regular cop, doing an off-duty detail. Otherwise, I would feel that the black guy might be prone to violence, racial hatred. I kept coming back to the fact that the prison population is predominantly black, and that violence against whites, by blacks, is a fact of life in our cities. The lack of family life, a father at home, seems to me to be a major factor contributing to black youth crime"

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-06-13/news/sfl-fred-carlson-south-florida-100_1_white-racism-zimmerman-25-pay-cut

Okay, so let me get this straight. You are going to throw away an actual example of a white neighborhood watchman who killed a black teenager where race was arguably a factor in the ultimate event and chalk it up to that person being a victim of the media, "liberal establishment" and "vocal segment of the black population." However, you'll easily throw out a hypothetical situation where a black watchman would just run totally rampant against the community out of his own racial hatred of whites.

Wow. Just wow.

And before someone chalks up Carlson's attitude to him being some vestige of the Old South still living in the land of Jim Crow, some slack jawed closeted KKK sympathizer, check out the Sun-Sentinel's brief bio of Carlson:

"20 years ago Fred Carlson came from New York to Fort Lauderdale. Beach resident and condo president, he is also Liaison to City Government and Director at the Central Beach Alliance, the CBA. A few years ago he was President of this community organization. He also writes "On The Beach with Fred Carlson" for CityView Fort Lauderdale magazine. In a previous life on Wall Street he was a commodity analyst for Merrill Lynch and then ran their Sugar Trading Desk which catered to the World Sugar Trade and hedgers. Education: Kimball Union Academy. Hobart and William Smith College. University of Pa. Wharton School. "

Judging on his picture, he probably spent 50-60 years of his life living in supposedly "liberal" New York, he's Ivy league educated and a product of Wall Street. More proof that racist attitudes come from every part of this nation and every class, not just certain segments.

In case one wants to give the Central Beach Alliance a piece of their mind for this wonderful specimen of humanity they have on their board of directors, their email is Treasurer@cbaftl.com.

http://cbaftl.com/contact_us.htm

This jackass is also on Twitter, although there's not much on there:

https://twitter.com/carlson_fred

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Jaw-droppingly racist quote from an HOA board representative in my newspaper (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 OP
As you said, "Wow. Just Wow." Lots of Carlson types out there, and many are armed. Hoyt Jul 2013 #1
Yes but we as a country are so over race because we elected a black man as president. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #2
Justice Roberts Cited No Prior Court Decisions DallasNE Jul 2013 #11
And then we proceeded to question whether he was actually an American citizen. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #17
Black kids who are shot to death by frightened White men is just simply the natural order of things MrScorpio Jul 2013 #3
Absolutely speechless Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #4
Our Country still has a long way to go. formercia Jul 2013 #5
They're still out there alright, no doubt about that... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2013 #6
OK so a black guy might have been prone to violence and racial hatred gollygee Jul 2013 #7
A friend had to sign that he would never sell his house to a colored person. SlipperySlope Jul 2013 #8
How True Is That DallasNE Jul 2013 #14
So the chain of title can be clouded and lost such that no one is able to tell Heywood J Jul 2013 #16
A non-caucasion, huh. blackspade Jul 2013 #29
i run across that restriction in old deeds. we add verbiage to the title insurance voiding it. eom ellenfl Jul 2013 #43
It's unfortunate that people like this have a propensity to seek positions of authority. gtar100 Jul 2013 #9
UNbelievable! n/t YarnAddict Jul 2013 #10
It doesn't surprise me... Sancho Jul 2013 #12
From my experience, umbrella HOAs attract people who abuse their power. Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #13
You don't get involved running an HOA Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #26
Racists *and* greedy people that want more than their fair share. A terrible combination. Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #32
Looks like a slack jawed closeted KKK sympathizer to me. ctsnowman Jul 2013 #15
My email to the Central Beach Alliance Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #18
Annnnnnnd it bounced back. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #19
They refused to post it? Wow. mainer Jul 2013 #21
Found a new email Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #22
If you don't mind, please keep us posted. I'd love to hear if they respond! 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #53
Will do. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #57
good letter. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #56
On the plus side, Carlson looks like a REALLY old fart mainer Jul 2013 #20
Seems to me that the City View Ft Lauderdale magazine might need to hear from people as well Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #23
Thanks. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #24
No offense but the fact that a magazine touting the affluence of their readers and the upscale Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #33
'upscale news magazine'? they probably agree with him . . . from behind their gates. eom ellenfl Jul 2013 #45
The guy's right. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #25
Please proceed, governor. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #27
I'm politically incorrect, I'm white. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #28
How did what he said make sense to you? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #34
I'm referring to the main article. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #44
Again, please explain? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #46
You can read the article, form your own opinion. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #47
I read the article. I posted the article. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #48
Yes, that's what he's saying. EOTE Jul 2013 #60
Why would anyo-- Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #63
So you're completely incapable of even explaining your racism. EOTE Jul 2013 #59
He is incapable of explaining anything at this website anymore. ieoeja Jul 2013 #64
I'm going to bookmark this post, regards uponit7771 Jul 2013 #37
and i am sure you aren't a racist noiretextatique Jul 2013 #51
Which part was he right about? EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2013 #54
My grandparents moved to Florida from NYC in the 1950's mountain grammy Jul 2013 #30
His comments are a complete inversion of both reality and history malaise Jul 2013 #31
Get over it. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #35
Holy fucking shit, you can't be serious! EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2013 #55
Well aren't you a piece of work. laundry_queen Jul 2013 #58
"Get over" racial based murder? EOTE Jul 2013 #61
unfortunately, being from ny does not mean one is liberal. ellenfl Jul 2013 #36
My wife has a relative from NY who is just incredibly racist. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #39
Wharton trumps "liberal" New York. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #38
No text, just an image from the AP... bobclark86 Jul 2013 #40
shocked, but not at all surprised to read something like that. frylock Jul 2013 #41
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #42
From Chris Rock in 2009. (Beware, bad words.) I wonder what he'd say today: freshwest Jul 2013 #49
the circular logic of racist assholes noiretextatique Jul 2013 #50
I knew before secondvariety Jul 2013 #52
It's bringing them out treestar Jul 2013 #62

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
2. Yes but we as a country are so over race because we elected a black man as president.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:05 AM
Jul 2013

Didn't you hear the news?

The supreme court is also ruling certain portions of a landmark civil rights act, the voting rights act unonstitutional because.... wait for it... here it is in all it's confounded glory.


"Our country has changed," Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote for the majority.
"While any racial discrimination in voting is too much, Congress must ensure that the legislation it passes to remedy that problem speaks to current conditions."

Supreme Court Invalidates Key Part of Voting Rights Act



I hope this rotten socksuckers legacy rests on this abominable statement.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
11. Justice Roberts Cited No Prior Court Decisions
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:42 AM
Jul 2013

To show where the court has the authority to sunset a law passed by Congress. He also failed at math when he said Congress relied on 40 year old data in 2006 when it relied on a formula established in 1975, especially when using the truthful 31 year charge would be nearly as effective.

This decision also looks to be in direct contradiction with the language of the 15th Amendment which would make it wrongly decided in any case, let alone the non-cited sunset provision in the Constitution. This decision is as laughable as Dred Scott, Bush v. Gore and Citizens United.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
17. And then we proceeded to question whether he was actually an American citizen.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jul 2013

We've got a long, long, long way to go still before we reach Dr. King's dream.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
3. Black kids who are shot to death by frightened White men is just simply the natural order of things
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:32 AM
Jul 2013

In his mind at least. There's no reason why he should think it out of the ordinary. After all, that kind of thing is quite justifiable, because he "knows" that Black people are just itching to kill Whites at the drop of the hat.

Brown skin is something to be feared by White people, at least he's scared of Black perps ready to gun after him and others on sight.

Tell me again, how in the hell do these people even go out in public?

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
6. They're still out there alright, no doubt about that...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:28 AM
Jul 2013

... and they're usually totally clueless as to how wrongheadedly racist and offensive they actually are.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. OK so a black guy might have been prone to violence and racial hatred
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

but of course Zimmerman wasn't?

Huh?

What?

Please tell me I didn't read all that I just read. Sigh.

SlipperySlope

(2,751 posts)
8. A friend had to sign that he would never sell his house to a colored person.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:35 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Institutionalized racism isn't a very distant part of our past.

A friend of mine very recently bought a house. It was an older home, built in the 1920s. Among the paperwork he had to sign was a promise that he would never sell the house to any non-Caucasian. An attorney explained that the promise no longer was legally enforceable, but since it had been tied to the land (along with other covenants) decades before the paperwork just kept living on over time.

Really strange to think about that language still existing in this day and age, but there it was in a modern real estate transaction.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
14. How True Is That
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:54 AM
Jul 2013

Unless the house is sold directly by the owner could real estate agents use this as a factor in which houses they show to minority buyers? Redlining has a long history in the real estate market, after all.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
16. So the chain of title can be clouded and lost such that no one is able to tell
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:06 AM
Jul 2013

who has the ability to foreclose, but racist covenants apparently will never disappear. Fascinating.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
29. A non-caucasion, huh.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jul 2013

That pretty much excludes everyone other than those from the Caucasus.
The irony there is rich.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
9. It's unfortunate that people like this have a propensity to seek positions of authority.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:41 AM
Jul 2013

Because the rest of us have to suffer their ineptitude.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
12. It doesn't surprise me...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:48 AM
Jul 2013

We've met lots of racists in Florida, and many move to gated communities and have HOA that enforce the norms. Many are educated and would say they aren't "racists", but the truth could be called white flight in every way.

It's worse in SC and GA where we grew up, but Florida segregates neighborhoods and schools. Carlson is typical.

Baitball Blogger

(46,712 posts)
13. From my experience, umbrella HOAs attract people who abuse their power.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:48 AM
Jul 2013

Unfortunately, unethical attorneys who happen to have connections with public attorneys love them because it's easy to control large numbers of people by separating the head from the body.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
26. You don't get involved running an HOA
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jul 2013

Unless you are already the kind of person who wants to be all up in everybody else's business anyway.

No a short leap to wanting to keep the neighborhood racially "pure" to keep those "undesirables" out.

Baitball Blogger

(46,712 posts)
32. Racists *and* greedy people that want more than their fair share. A terrible combination.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:30 AM
Jul 2013

In a planning and zoning board meeting a city manager was expressing the city's latest strategy. They had been stumped by a Master HOA for several years (Not that the city didn't deserve it) and so in January 1998 they finally came out and admitted that they had to get a better courtship with this Master HOA.

One of the P&Z members made this remark: "You move into (the community), you buy a house, become the president of the Homeowners' Association and you call your own shots."

That's exactly what is going on. And in a right-wing community every public organization that is legally obligated to protect you, will sell you out in order to court a better relationship with that president.

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
15. Looks like a slack jawed closeted KKK sympathizer to me.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:56 AM
Jul 2013

Read the read of his bagger garble. He also doesn't seem to know what month it is. And what's with it being under Home?Collections?Muslim Brotherhood?

June 13, 2013
Last week: The Zimmerman jurors rose above the prejudice of the judge, the drama-seeking media, the prosecutor, the vicious racism of the liberal establishment in Washington and sadly, that of a vocal segment of the black population. "Hold on," you might say, "What about white racism?" Reverse the color of Zimmerman and Martin. To have a black neighborhood watch guy would seem to be playing with fire. Would he be fair to a teenage white guy in a hoodie? Yes, it would be OK if the black watch guy was a regular cop, doing an off-duty detail. Otherwise, I would feel that the black guy might be prone to violence, racial hatred. I kept coming back to the fact that the prison population is predominantly black, and that violence against whites, by blacks, is a fact of life in our cities. The lack of family life, a father at home, seems to me to be a major factor contributing to black youth crime.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
18. My email to the Central Beach Alliance
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:29 AM
Jul 2013

Dear Sir/Madam:



I just wanted to express my feelings and concerns about the opinions expressed by your current director and former President, Fred Carlson, in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel as it relates to the recent verdict in the George Zimmerman case.

The full quote, lest I be accused of taking Mr. Carlson out of context, is as follows:

"The Zimmerman jurors rose above the prejudice of the judge, the drama-seeking media, the prosecutor, the vicious racism of the liberal establishment in Washington and sadly, that of a vocal segment of the black population. "Hold on," you might say, "What about white racism?" Reverse the color of Zimmerman and Martin. To have a black neighborhood watch guy would seem to be playing with fire. Would he be fair to a teenage white guy in a hoodie? Yes, it would be OK if the black watch guy was a regular cop, doing an off-duty detail. Otherwise, I would feel that the black guy might be prone to violence, racial hatred. I kept coming back to the fact that the prison population is predominantly black, and that violence against whites, by blacks, is a fact of life in our cities. The lack of family life, a father at home, seems to me to be a major factor contributing to black youth crime."

Of my greatest concern is Mr. Carlson's belief that a black neighborhood watchman would automatically be pre-disposed to engage in acts of racially motivated violence, apparently solely on the basis of his race.

Now it is true that Mr. Carlson, as a citizen of this country, has the right to express his opinions in any way without fear of criminal punishment or civil sanction from the government. And the Sun-Sentinel has the right to publish those opinions without similar recourse. Both of those rights are guaranteed by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

However, it should be noted that your organization-the Central Broward Alliance-is not the public government, but instead a private entity.Furthermore, you are an umbrella group of various homeowners organizations. I am assuming that in the various communities that make up the Central Beach Alliance, there are representatives of a wide multitude of races and ethnicities, including African Americans. Would you have any doubt that they would likely feel uncomfortable to have their own character prejudged simply on the basis of their skin color? Would you blame them for feeling such a way?

While I realize that Mr. Carlson was likely speaking on an individual capacity (although his affiliation with the Central Beach Alliance was noted by the Sun-Sentinel), what sort of message is being sent to the African American residents in your communities when a member of your own board of directors is espousing beliefs that are-bluntly speaking-highly offensive and highly racist?

In his biography on the Sun-Sentinel website, Mr. Carlson lists himself as your organization's liaison to the Fort Lauderdale city government. At some point you have to ask yourself: Is this the type of person we as a group want representing us to the public?

Apparently, Mr. Carlson is Ivy-League educated and enjoyed a long, successful career in the financial sector in New York. He should know better. But-apparently-he did not.

I cannot tell you how you as an organization approach Mr. Carlson's comments. Whether Mr. Carlson remains as a director and/or as a liaison to the city government is entirely up to you. However, at the very least, the proper thing to do would be to issue a statement on behalf of the CBA strongly condemning Mr. Carlson's contemptible views, and re-iterating to the community that you are an association of communities welcoming to all races, ethnicities, religions, genders and orientations.

For the record, I am not a resident of any community within the Central Beach Alliance. Also for the record, I am white. I write to you today only as a concerned private citizen who believes in doing the right thing. And the right thing most certainly needs to be done in this instance.

Thank you kindly,

*************




mainer

(12,022 posts)
20. On the plus side, Carlson looks like a REALLY old fart
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

who'll be gone soon. Let's hope those prehistoric beliefs die with others like him.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. Seems to me that the City View Ft Lauderdale magazine might need to hear from people as well
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:48 AM
Jul 2013

this racist writes a column for that magazine which describes itself in this way:
"CITYVIEW is the premium, upscale newsmagazine profiling the people, politics, business and fun things to do in NE Fort Lauderdale and around the city! It's the best of a full-featured city magazine with the 'up-close and personal' touch of local writers, businesses and neighborhood contributors.
Published bimonthly, CITYVIEW reaches NE Fort Lauderdale’s high-profile homeowners, residents and businesses more comprehensively than any other publication of its kind...in print and online."
publisher@ftlauderdalemedia.com or give us a call at (954) 828-1337. We're in print, online & on target...for you!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
33. No offense but the fact that a magazine touting the affluence of their readers and the upscale
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jul 2013

nature of their area feels comfortable with such extreme racism out of a regular columnist is shocking to me.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
48. I read the article. I posted the article.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jul 2013

So just for the record, are you saying that a black person is too risky to serve as a neighborhood watchman because he may be blinded by racial hatred and is inherently more violent than white people?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
60. Yes, that's what he's saying.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:08 AM
Jul 2013

But he's far too cowardly come out and actually say it. So he leaves it implied.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
63. Why would anyo--
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jul 2013

Never mind.

Doesn't make sense, and this point I don't need to try to make it make sense.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
59. So you're completely incapable of even explaining your racism.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:07 AM
Jul 2013

Just so you know, pretty much everyone on this thread HAS read the article and recognized it for the racist bullshit that it is. You can back this guy up but are so cowardly that you can't even explain why you defend such racist tripe. At least it's becoming far easier to weed out the racists around here.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
64. He is incapable of explaining anything at this website anymore.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jul 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=279666


Lasted almost two years. DU's distaste for racism apparently proved too much for him as evidenced by this thread. He clearly wasn't even trying to hide it anymore.


EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
54. Which part was he right about?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013

If you're agreeing with his racist sentiment, perhaps you're at the wrong website.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
30. My grandparents moved to Florida from NYC in the 1950's
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

One winter, when my aunt and uncle were visiting, my aunt, a lifetime New Yorker (emigrated from Poland with my grandparents at age 6), took a city bus. As was her custom, she sat in the back. The driver informed her he could not move the bus until she moved to the white section in the front. She moved to the front, but swore she would never move to Florida. My uncle won that argument, and they both lived out their lives in Miami, but she remained true blue and colorblind until the end of her life.

Once when I was visiting her, my cousin, her only son, came over. He had moved to Fl. as a young man. All of a sudden, he starts railing about "the blacks." My aunt rolled her eyes and dragged her arthritic body out of the room. I told him he was disrespecting cultural differences just like people do when they make nasty remarks about us (Jews,) and that he had become quite a racist. No way, he boomed, "they" just expect to be handed everything.

Later, my aunt told me she hated it there, but her grandchildren were attentive and loving and nothing like their father, and she was right. They are both still in Florida trying to turn this ugly tide.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
31. His comments are a complete inversion of both reality and history
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:20 AM
Jul 2013

He's just one more insecure white man who is terrified that black people do to him what was and continues to be done to us for centuries.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
55. Holy fucking shit, you can't be serious!
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jul 2013

You just said "get over it" to a black person when referring to slavery. What's even more sick is that 5 DUers thinks it's okay.

You don't belong here...

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
61. "Get over" racial based murder?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:10 AM
Jul 2013

Wow, what a piece of shit. You've already demonstrated your KKK bona-fides in this thread. Did you get lost on your way to Stormfront or something? Creep.

ellenfl

(8,660 posts)
36. unfortunately, being from ny does not mean one is liberal.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:49 AM
Jul 2013

i have neighbors who retired here from ny. he was a fireman and she was a teacher. both are anti-union and as rw as you can get. go figure.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
39. My wife has a relative from NY who is just incredibly racist.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:58 AM
Jul 2013

Blacks, Hispanics.....he once said he'll "tolerate the jews", etc.

And he's a cop.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
40. No text, just an image from the AP...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:19 AM
Jul 2013


EDIT: The cutline
Renee Vaughan holds a sign up as the G. Zimmerman River Oaks Stand Your Ground group holds a counter demonstration to Houston community activist Quanell X's group march in the River Oaks community in Houston, Sunday, July 21, 2013. Dueling groups of protesters converged on a wealthy Houston neighborhood in reaction to last weekend's not-guilty verdict in the shooting death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin. (AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, James Nielsen)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
49. From Chris Rock in 2009. (Beware, bad words.) I wonder what he'd say today:
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jul 2013


Chris Rock "White People Have Gotten Less Crazy"

Uploaded on Oct 14, 2009


Comedian Chris Rock sat down with CBC Radio One's host of Q Jian Ghomeshi to talk about his new flim 'Good Hair'. This is an excerpt from that documentary.

Clearly, more enlightenment is needed in this country.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
50. the circular logic of racist assholes
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jul 2013

never ceases to amaze me zimmerman isn't a racist...but if he was black, he would probably be racist

treestar

(82,383 posts)
62. It's bringing them out
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:10 AM
Jul 2013

My racist uncle was explaining to me patiently and condescendingly how hoodies are suspicious and why it would not be suspicious for a white person to wear one. Namely that blacks wear them in hot weather to disguise who they are as they commit crimes. When asked if white men wearing them in hot weather would be suspicious, he said white men weren't that stupid and therefore wouldn't be wearing one.

And then add in the sexism. Anyone without a father at home will obviously be violent.

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