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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:53 AM Jul 2013

Ray Kelly's record should rule him out of heading Homeland Security

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/22/ray-kelly-rule-out-homeland-security


Raymond Kelly, police commissioner of the City of New York, at a 2011 press conference. Photograph: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

The idea of nominating of Raymond W Kelly for secretary of the Department of Homeland Security would violate President Barack Obama's core principles and polices. The president has espoused openness, transparency, trust and confidence in government; inter-agency law enforcement co-operation; partnerships with citizens; and fair, equitable, effective and non-discriminatory law enforcement. On being elected, he promised:

Obama and Biden will ban racial profiling by federal law enforcement agencies and provide federal incentives to state and local police departments to prohibit the practice.

Attorney General Eric Holder, another longtime critic of racial profiling, has worked to put the Department of Justice in a position to monitor "stop-and-frisk", the controversial policing tactic that has a disparate impact on blacks and Latinos. Speaking to the NAACP last week, Holder called the policy "outrageous".

Kelly's extensive record as commissioner of the New York City Police Department, on the other hand, speaks for itself. It is rife with secrecy, top-down managerial manipulation, impervious to any outside scrutiny, contemptuous of any questioning, and has embraced extensive surveillance and discriminatory policing of religious and racial minorities.
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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. The first clue I received was this information was from the Guardian, a suspicious source so I
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jul 2013

looked further. Though Guardian will never like Kelly he will receive bipartisan if not unanimous support. I would also be suspect of any recommendation made by the Guardian for the head of DHS.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. Stop Ray Kelly from leading Homeland Security Department
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jul 2013
Friday, Jul 12, 2013 12:43 PM CAST

Stop Ray Kelly from leading Homeland Security Department

With Janet Napolitano stepping down, some are pushing for the NYPD commissioner to take over. That's a scary idea

By David Sirota

...

1. Kelly is the man behind New York City’s brutish stop-and-frisk program. According to New York state legislators, Kelly defends the program’s disproportionate targeting of people of color by insisting that it is specifically designed to “instill fear in them.” Read much more on the practice here.

2. Kelly has helped oversee a collusion between law enforcement and tech companies for the creation of an unparalleled surveillance regime in New York City. As CNN reported, the “crime monitoring system — developed with Microsoft — designed to allow law enforcement to better collect data and review the city in real time, using a collection of cameras, license-plate readers and other resources.

3. Kelly forged an unprecedented — and possibly illegal — program allowing the Central Intelligence Agency to embed itself in the NYPD for the purpose of domestic surveillance. Despite the CIA being statutorily barred from conducting surveillance inside the United States, Kelly has loyally defended the program.

4. Kelly created a program to target New York’s Muslim community for mass surveillance.

5. Kelly insists that law enforcement authorities should be shielded from independent public oversight. Yes, that’s right, when confronted with a proposal to follow other cities and create an independent police monitor, Kelly blowtorched the proposal.

Consider this record, and then consider it backed by the resources of not just the New York City police department, but the entire federal Department of Homeland Security. That’s what a Kelly nomination to head DHS would represent.

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/12/stop_ray_kelly_from_leading_homeland_security_department/

indepat

(20,899 posts)
9. Kelly would seem to be a far right-winger's dream appointment 'cause we don't need no
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jul 2013

leftist commie pinko soft on crime, communism, and terra and weak on national defense libral-headed wussie heading up DHS.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
17. Tearing apart Ray Kelly's shameless lies
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jul 2013
@AlterNet: Tearing apart Ray Kelly's shameless lies about #NYPD's #racist #stopandfrisk policies. http://ow.ly/nk2bl

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. Here's the cynical/political view of what could happen with Ray Kelley
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

Here's the cynical/political view of what could happen with Ray Kelley

I hope Ray Kelly will not be appointed but as this article mentions Obama got pressure about appointing Brennan for CIA in his first term and waited until his second to push him through. The article doesn't mention it, but Penny Pritzger for Commerce was his pick First Term but the Left pressured him...and he waited until Second Term where she sailed through just like Brennan did. This is an interesting counterpoint to your article. I hate to think that he would put Ray Kelly in for DHS.. but, if it suits him politically, he probably will go with it for the reasons this article states.

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What's the Upside for Obama in a Ray Kelly DHS Nomination?

President Obama: We've had an outstanding leader in Janet Napolitano at the Department of Homeland Security. It's a tough job. It's one of the toughest jobs in Washington. She's done an extraordinary job. We're sorry to see her go. But you know, we're going to have a bunch of strong candidates. Mr. Kelly might be very happy where he is. But if he's not I'd want to know about it. 'Cause you know, obviously he'd be very well qualified for the job.


Obama's comments, while laudatory, do seem to have an air of what Gothamist calls "banal praise to smooth things over." Gothamist—and most other critiques of a Kelly appointment—note that the president's administration has even recently critiqued Kelly's police force. In June, Attorney General Eric Holder indicated that the Department of Justice would be willing to appoint a monitor to oversee any changes that might be mandated after the conclusion of the stop-and-frisk civil suit.

The bigger question is why Obama would nominate Kelly in the first place. When Obama offered Janet Napolitano, the outgoing DHS head who will become president of the University of California system, the message was clear: DHS will be tough on border security. Napolitano had been governor of Arizona, giving her credibility on the issue. That was in 2008, when border security was a more important political issue. What message does a Kelly pick send?

One of the first examinations of that issue came from John Avlon at the Daily Beast. His argument came down to the idea that appointing Kelly would help Democrats maintain an air of toughness on security issues—hardly an unimpeachable suggestion.

Avlon also suggests that Kelly brings a sense of authority on issues of terrorism. If so, it's not clear how he earned it. Under Kelly, the NYPD's track record of terror investigations has earned some strong criticism. The department initiated its own aggressive, multi-state undercover operations in the wake of 9/11, which a subsequent report determined had resulted in precisely zero leads. Kelly does have experience working with federal agents on terrorism, it's true—including the CIA, which embedded off-duty agents with the force a decade ago.

Flirting with a Kelly nomination right now may pay some indirect benefits for the president. It serves as a tacit response to criticism of the Department of Justice's investigation of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Kelly would also be one of the few white males in Obama's second-term Cabinet.

Obama's been in a similar position with his ostensible allies on the left before. In 2008, he considered nominating John Brennan to run the CIA. In the wake of massive criticism of the pick from liberals angry about the nominee's embrace of Bush-era torture programs, Brennan withdrew. The liberals won.

For a while. Earlier this year, at the beginning of his second term, Obama nominated Brennan for the same position. The main opposition came from Rand Paul, Republican senator from Kentucky. Brennan was approved 63-34.

More at:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/07/whats-upside-obama-ray-kelly-dhs-nomination/67376/

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. I remember when Penny Pritzger's Second Nomination for SOC got little interest
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jul 2013

here on DU ...and I thought it might have meant that Obama was not going to succeed in her appointment the Second Time and that those who work for OFA here were signaling that we who were alarmed about Pritzger were just foolish...

BUT...Pritzger is now SOC and I wonder if like Brennan that Obama tried the First Time to get through like Pritzger and then was confirmed overwhelmingly the Second Time around that...the lack of interest in posts about Ray Kelly are ANOTHER appointment that will Sail Through and that OFA is so comfortable with it that they don't even bother to acknowledge that he could or will be sailing through Congress.

Yet we are told that Repugs Oppose Obama.

Anyway...a KICK to inform people about "Racial Profile Ray Kelly" taking over for Napolitano.

Don't say we Lefty Dems didn't warn ya! You don't like the Trayvon Martin verdict....Then WAIT until RAY KELLY HEADS DHS and see what happens.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
11. Ray Kelly & Larry Summers in "Change We Can Believe In"
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013
@firetomfriedman: Coming to a theater near you: Ray Kelly & Larry Summers in "Change We Can Believe In"
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
13. Nominating Kelly would be just a giant "fuck you" from the White House to OWS
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jul 2013

Them, and just about every non-white young male in NYC.

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