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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Royal Baby? I couldn’t give a shit...
Man, with all the suffering in the world caused by Royalty and the 1% of this world, I think the interest and coverage of this story is so not warranted.. Kathryn the Duchess Of Windsor... What crap!
MSNBC has been heavily covering this crap all morning..
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I am getting sick of this birth being all over the TV. I have been to the London twice. I love the British Isles, but I do not give a shit about the royal family.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)turn the internet off and go for a walk
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Granted, what you say is true. I will not be watching the coverage, but I'll be damned if I can't have an opinion about it.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Probably don't like kids anyway.. yawn. glad she had it the natural way instead of allowing the media dictate when she should give birth..
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)A rather baseless assertion on your part.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)You're not even the op.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)But you did reply to the OP, and I responded accordingly.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Haters gotta hate.
Logical
(22,457 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)I hate to say it, but it's kind of demented.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Whether it's royals or Hollywood (or Bollywood for that matter) stars.
Old as the hills.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)movies, Disney tchotchkes, .....!
reformist2
(9,841 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)"Everything is awful, awful, awful, and misery, misery, misery.....Goodbye cruel world!!!!"
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Methinks they doth protest too much.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)By that reasoning, all of the people who expressed outrage at the NSA surveillance program must secretly support it.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)That I love your siglines? Because I do.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)There is irony in vehemently expressing ones indifference towards a topic.
If one was truly indifferent then they would likely not be shouting out their opinions on it. One who is outraged on the other hand would be expected to do so.
With that said - I don't the OP falls into that category. Sounds like he is indifferent to the royal birth but is outraged (or at least annoyed) that it distracts from other things the media could be covering.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)I couldn't possibly care less about The Royal Birth. Truly, I couldn't.
I also don't care when people stand up and declare their adoration for The Royal Couple, explaining to the rest of us why we should just be happy for the young couple etc. etc. etc.
I am, however, nauseated by the front-page treatment that The Royal Birth gets. It's been on page two for months, and now we can expect it on page one for the next week or so, with pictures and play-by-play bullshit for months to follow.
Fawning acolytes will scour the pictures for any sign of Diana, and we'll be treated to the typical embarrassing lovefest that The Royals always seem to bring out in a society that seems desperate to reinstate the old class stratification to which The Royals are a living, anachronistic monument.
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BuddhaGirl
(3,607 posts)and it is rather amusing!
niyad
(113,318 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Im glad I got it wrong..
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Oh wait, nevermind.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)Did anyone see the conjuring this weekend. Pretty good stuff. I was tripping off of lili taylor trying to figure out when did she fill out like that. She looked really good.
cabot
(724 posts)I didn't like them equating witchcraft with satanism, though. Lili Taylor was excellent. Happy to see her in a film! It's been awhile.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)any religious ceremony. I think the wine and crackers deal can be morbid. Lol, hope I'm not going to get in trouble.
cabot
(724 posts)That part was creepy as hell! I can't stand dolls. Or clowns. Or Clown Dolls. *shudder*
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)Permission to posses a doll, then think you can get rid of it by throwing it in the trash. The first problem they should have thought about is they were talking to a spirit. Like dealing with spirits was a every day experience. Lol.
Tien1985
(920 posts)Getting upset over? I don't really care, as the birth has zero effect on me. But for what it's worth, I know a lot of people having babies right now and not a one of them has an effect on me.
On a macro level, I'm concerned about population problem and that isn't a choice my family will make. On a personal level, they're having a baby and they are excited and hopeful. That's not a terrible thing, and it doesn't hurt me to hear about it in passing.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)at different ethnic and cultural groups to blame for huge families.
Tien1985
(920 posts)I was referring more to the families I know personally in regards to population.
I suppose someone could argue the footprint one royal kid is going to make over a lifetime to the combined footprint of 4 kids living in a rural, poor area, but the royal still might turn out cheaper.
Regardless, it still really doesn't effect me
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)MSNBC is not a news source. It's like Fox News but for "liberals".
If anybody relies on MSNBC as a main source of information, they are going to become a very misinformed low information voter.
Royal babies = weapons of mass distraction.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...or should I start a new one?
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)I asked a question that would require something other than a yes or no response.
This happens to me all day long at work. "Are you a patient of Dr Jones' or Dr Smith's?"
And so often I get a "Yes" reply.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Just spitballing...
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Granted, most of them were British Catholics and Protestants and hundreds of thousands of French civilians, but still.
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)or you wouldn't have posted that.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)I'm going to have to figure out what words to auto trash to hide that stuff.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I'm not understanding, here...
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Did you earn one ?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)And yes, I did earn one, in 1965. I fired a perfect score at the range. Better than perfect, actually. There were two holes more than the number of rounds I had fired. Apparently the guy next to me didn't do as well and managed to score on my target a couple of times. The M-16 was an interesting piece, and they had just switched to it at Lackland. We were one of the first basic training groups to use them.
The range master actually came over to congratulate me. I told him I'd grown up shooting at match heads and .22 cartridges on sticks as targets. He just nodded.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)I was there in Jan- Mar 1965 Flight 78, 3702 BMTS I have one of those too except we used the M-1 Carbine 30. cal
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)discover that we would be firing a bunch of brand-new M-16s. I'd read about them, but expected M-14s. It was a treat.
I did play a little trick, though. We fired 100 rounds for scoring. Before that, we were supposed to fire a couple of magazines for practice. Since I knew that I'd qualify easily, I didn't fire all of the practice rounds, once I had sighted the weapon in and saw where it was hitting. At the end of the scoring fire, after marking our targets, we were told to fire any remaining rounds.
I did. But I switched the selector to full auto, and emptied the magazine. I got yelled at, but not too loudly. I wasn't the only one who did that, either. It seemed that others, too, wanted that chance, and had saved some of their practice rounds.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Produced by the 1%... This crap is on the same level as a Justin Bieber story..
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I'm attracted to threads complaining about threads on DU. Odd, huh?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Lets talk about Kings and Queens, Palaces and Parades..
Destruction of middle class..... Yea....That can wait..
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)And in some other countries around the world. The folks there seem to enjoy the symbolism of a monarchy. We don't have such a thing here in the US. We substitute sports stars, musicians, and actors.
Personally, I don't see the utility of any of that. Others do. I'm content to leave them to their own interests. But, you appear to have missed my point from my original reply to your post. Odd, huh?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Its a choice here... Odd??
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)That I started a fucking dumb Thread? Then why have you been hanging around so long?
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I suspect that if that could be estimated, the monarchy - expensive as it is - could be an overall plus.
calimary
(81,283 posts)I'd bet that 90% of all the naysayers everywhere, who poo-poo the royal family and all it's about, would be among the first in line to take pictures of themselves in front of the Palace, the Tower of London, the Changing of the Guard, those Beefeater guards with the big furry helmets, and haunt the souvenir shops for baby bibs decorated with crowns and coffee mugs with Charles's ears on them.
YES they're an anachronism. YES they're expensive. YES they're utter frippery.
So what? They're a diversion - and for a change, a pleasant one. I like this. The news here has been so damn grim and depressing and dreary that I find this actually something of a pleasant, harmless relief. Like taking a coffee break in the middle of a tense workday.
As an old feminist, I find it pleasing that the gender of the baby won't matter. The old musty laws have been changed, and I find that pleasing as well. Now, if it's a girl, SHE will be the sovereign someday. Whether or not she eventually has a little brother. He won't trump her anymore simply because he's male. I find that refreshing and satisfying and encouraging. It's a little thing, but even little things matter. Baby steps, literally as well as figuratively. Even the musty old centuries-old monarchy can update a little and throw off at least some of the old ways that aren't relevant anymore. And I like how we have a future king of England who was able to marry for love. Even his dad wasn't able to do that. William was able to choose his mate for his own personal reasons, for his own personal happiness instead of the old conventions where she had to be a blue-blood, she had to be a virgin, etc etc. As recently as Princess Diana, that liberation did not exist. They're both bent on raising a family in touch with the real world and not remaining insular. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. Because they set an example. And if they're embodying change, and putting a human face on it, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.
Yeah, it's just them, over there across the pond, and it's symbolic. Understood. And so what? I find it pleasing to be able to witness human evolution happening. Like it or not, Will and Kate are leaders in a new age. Their eyes and their minds are both wide open. And they're focused on philanthropy, too, which I always appreciate. AND international bridge-building. Symbolic. Even in a small way. Just like they are, themselves, as royals. And if they're leading a new-age symbolism, that's a good thing.
And living in a country that's not even 300 years old yet, compared with another with well beyond a THOUSAND years of history and culture, I have a respect for that. We're a young whipper-snapper country. In the family of nations, the U.S. is like the unruly teenager. We certainly act our age, wouldn't you say?
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)we are an offshoot, we didn't just spring up out of the ground now did we?
niyad
(113,318 posts)us who look for signs of some kind of advancement in women's rights, wherever it might occur.
Rex
(65,616 posts)DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)n/t
grilled onions
(1,957 posts)The glitz and glamour of the wealthy having their offspring is in sharp contrast to the dismal future of the babes of the rest of us. First of all we are expected to celebrate THEIR new child but we are also expected to endure their vocal abuse of condemning the rest of the population having kids they cannot afford even though THEY control the wage purse strings,THEY prevent birth control whenever possible to all those who cannot afford children, yet expect us to celebrate every time the upper crust adds another to their wealthy family tree.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Me either...Something I've noticed among those who do care about such things,in my limited personal experiences,is that:Much of the time,MOST of the time,They also know every bit of minutiae on the Kardashians and Snooki,yet can't name their States Lt.Gov.,their towns mayor or their congresscritter and probably avail themselves of some program or resource that those they vote for swear to end.
This royal baby crap is another shiney object for the easily distracted to flit off to...
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)to start a thread telling everyone that you don't give a shit.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Just the way they like it....They distract ignorants with issues of hate and they also distract with make believe fairy tales..
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Most people can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Ignorants? Tell me, who are you calling 'ignorants'?
City Lights
(25,171 posts)And you continue to pile on. If you're so against this type of distraction, why don't you quit adding to it?
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Things aren't so great for some in their country, in case they hadn't noticed. Living on the streets, for example. Perhaps Queenie could give up one of the palaces to house the homeless, or spare a few million to help some of the little people out.
I think it's obscene for the Royals to live the way they do--as long as there are people suffering, they ought to be doing something about it. Perhaps I'm just intolerant of the privileged, but they've been wiping their feet on commoners for way too long.
Diana was the only one who really ever seemed to care about anyone.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)and royal shit at that!
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)Botany
(70,508 posts)Gremlins, Wood Nymphs, Fire Breathing Dragons, Leprechauns, or magic carpets ....
made up hog wash ..... and the sooner countries dump the stupid notion of people
being "born royal" the better off the world would be.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)you know, something EVERYONE will be eager to read because its so new and special?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)makes Abortion illegal.. What would you like to discuss?
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)what is not. I don't belittle people for whatever discussion they choose to engage in. A discussion board is just that; no one member's opinion is any more important than any others unless you're an administrator.
There are plenty of threads already discussing the repeal of Obamacare or the clusterfuck in Texas. If you disagree, start more. But don't disparage people because you disapprove of their topics. Appeal to Skinner-if he agrees with you, the thread will go away and you win.
Starting a thread just to bitch about other threads make DU suck, IMHO.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I didnt even read DU before I started the threat this a.m.
So I guess that closes down this bit of nonsense..
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I have no interest in baseball or football, would it be sensible if I bemoaned coverage of the World Series or the Superbowl?
I doubt the media has ever covered everything in proportion to its importance. The media has always covered things that at least a subset of people are interested in - especially if they have an easy story line. This does - whether a girl or boy, this child has an excellent chance of being Britain's monarch. The first time that will happen if the baby is a girl. In addition, it is a break from largely negative news - Trayvon Martin, the various wars, Congress for the most part, an economy recovering unequally - not creating enough jobs needed for the bottom half or the kids who graduated college since 2009. It is celebrity news - and as celebrities go, that couple are at least as well intentioned as most.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Orrex
(63,213 posts)Otherwise, how could we remember to bow and scrape before our betters?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)elleng
(130,918 posts)We're all SO interested in things about which you 'couldn't give a shit,' of course.
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iandhr
(6,852 posts)about it. Just ignore it if you this its crap.
lastlib
(23,238 posts)I'm tired of these people living high off the taxpayers' money!
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)decide, not us.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)I don't care about the next generation of parasite to pop out, except for all the breathless anticipation by OUR wanna-be Royal Subjects.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)Naturally there will be a lot of interest in it just like there was in William and Kate's royal wedding. To a lot of Brits it's a big deal and I am, as a non British citizen myself, content to let the British people decide if they want to continue to have a monarch or not.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)It's absolutely disgusting.
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)niyad
(113,318 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)on that.
somethingshiny
(31 posts)This was the lead story on one of the morning shows today (CBS, I think). 20 MINUTES into the broadcast, they mentioned a huge earthquake with casualties had occurred in China. Effed up priorities, IMO. I wish them the best, just as I would to any other couple, but have zero interest in all the hoopla.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)due to the logistical and political problems of getting cameras and reporters into the earthquake affected area as opposed to the ease of getting same into a street outside a hospital in Great Britain.
demwing
(16,916 posts)you decided to create a thread?
ok!
840high
(17,196 posts)Lenomsky
(340 posts)Could not give one iota of a shit .. hope all goes well like any birth but 24/7 coverage F-U-C-K that!
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)They seem like a nice enough couple so I hope they're all well and happy. Other than that, it doesn't affect me. I know some people are excited. That's fine. People need something to be happy about.
kardonb
(777 posts)a baby , royal or not , is always a happy occasion . How wonderful to hear happy news " among all the suffering in the world " , of which we have a daily overload . Turn off MSNBC and all other news media , and crawl back into your "Unhappy " cave .
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Hope the happy couple is doing well.....
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...how special
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and not paying attention to any of it is important enough to point out how one isn't paying attention and how much one doesn't care about it.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...and complaining about getting wet.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Youre all so funny!!
allinthegame
(132 posts)I didn't think this crowd could get this bitter (pardon me for being so wrong)....
it's a baby! who will one day be queen or king of England....is it that tough not to be so
snarky and suspect about everything?
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)if I was related to King Leopold the genocidal maniac, I wouldn't brag about it
alp227
(32,025 posts)Initech
(100,078 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Okay. I only vaguely don't care, because I replied to a thread about it.
olddots
(10,237 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)I'm married to an immigrant from the UK and frankly, I am interested. As we plan to retire over there, this baby will be part of our future there. I think it's comical that you had to start a thread about not giving a shit about it. ha ha.
I'm very happy that William found a women to produce a heir to the throne. I think they make a great couple and have taken the celebrity quite well considering the whole freaking world does give a shit about them. I remember the day he was born and watched his parents get married in '81 or '82. I've always been interested in hearing about them as long as they (the photographers) don't invade their privacy.
Live free.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)And in this case especially since I have no knowledge whatsoever of anything "bad, evil or morally wrong" Kate has done.
William is by all accounts a skilled rescue helicopter pilot stationed on the North Sea, one of the most dangerous waters in the world. His mother was taken from him early in her life. I'm sure he doesn't give a damn what you or I think anyway. She was also a great woman who did much for poor and endangered people all over the world.
Most of the Royal family are known more for their social and charity work, The Queen has lived a long and interesting life since being a nurse in London during WWII. She has also been the Monarch who has seen more countries gain independence than any other.
I'd also like to note for the record; This royal child (no matter the gender) will be 3rd in line for the crown. This is a great step forward for women's rights in Great Britain.
If you think the M$M is covering this to much and missing other stories I tend to agree with you. Much of the coverage is over hyped.
disclaimer: I am of Scottish Royal descent, my family having immigrated to America in the 1600's some 13 generations ago. I am also in favor of Scottish independence.
dorkulon
(5,116 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)that you didn't start.
Wait, wut?
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)it's a waste of airtime. Sorry to see you taking a beating from the bootlicker brigade.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I wish my birth had gotten this much coverage. Hmph.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)Initech
(100,078 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Snowden, Zimmerman, nsa, 'self-defense'.... same shit, different day.
TlalocW
(15,383 posts)Her: She's in labor!
Me: Who? Your daughter? She's only 3 months along.
Her: No, Kate.
Me: Kate who?
Her: You know... Kate... Prince William's wife.
Me: *slowly processing* Oh. I forgot he got married. So she's fulfilling her royal duty of being a broodmare to make sure the lineage continues, eh?
Her: I think broodmare's a little harsh.
Me: Tell me something interesting about Kate and her accomplishments before she started seeing William.
Her: *silence*
TlalocW
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I should begin a thread about how careless I am in regards to automobiles. Yet I then reflect and realize the absurd amount of petulance I would advertise by investing my time and emotion into writing a post about how little I invest my care, my time or my emotion into that thing.
However, I'm quite certain you'll find the difference between six of one and half a dozen of the other.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)What I don't understand is why I come to DU and find people announcing their lack of interest. I mean, lack of interest SHOULD equate to not starting threads about it, right?
I have to assume some DUers are spending time with TV and radio news and talk that is reporting on the birth, otherwise they wouldn't be posting about it.
I like my simple solution: don't tune in to tv and radio news. One can stay informed without it.
indepat
(20,899 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Coyotl
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)plain old happiness and joy is just fine with me.
niyad
(113,318 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)out for simple pleasures and joy in life....aren't we allowed that?
My friend decided she would stop watching news all together. I always
thought this was a move of stupid people.
Starting to think......
niyad
(113,318 posts)essential to nourish our souls, our hearts, as well as our bodies. makes it a bit easier to continue the struggle. too bad there are some who do not realize this.
I think your friend is smart. I do not watch the news (not just because it is depressing, but because the inappropriate smiles, smirks, and inability to read a teleprompter (or have someone write that stuff correctly make me want to throw things). I read --and even there, many occasions where I want to throw things. But I don't have that ugly visual energy coming at me.
Tonight I am looking at the beautiful moon, and listening to wonderful music. it helps.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)I am, but sounds fantastic.
Why don't we stop the insanity and just, all of us, just say:
"We care about people?"
"We want everyone to have a doctor?"
"We want war to stop?"
"We want our air and water to be clean?"
"We want people who love each other to be married, if they want?"
etc. etc. etc.
And just stick with it....and keep on repeating it...and then just enjoy the life that is so precious and so short ?
niyad
(113,318 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)she passed away two years ago from cancer after slipping into a coma right before Kate and William's wedding
quinnox
(20,600 posts)recommended
gabeana
(3,166 posts)people who care about this, its just my opinion seem to be the same who love reality TV and cared about the west baby yet there is real news out there not getting the coverage. It is the People magazine crowd
It is fluff
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)The whole concept of "royalty" pisses me off, and it astounds me that Britain still even recognizes their "royalty". France was smart enough to get rid of even the concept of royalty when they had their revolution, but Britain never did, and even in this day and age still fawns over their "royals". With America's history one would think we would be rightfully offended by even the concept of royalty yet here we are fawning over some other country's "royals" and particularly Britain's "royals" that makes a mockery of everything this country has always stood for and its history.
Piss on the "royal" couple, their "royal" baby and the entire concept of royalty that Britain still clings to and Americans shamefully are embracing by going all ga-ga over a farce of a "duchess" having a "royal" child. If not for this farce of "royalty" they'd be ordinary people having a baby and needing to work for a living rather than sponging off the country's wealth just because of who they are - who they were born to or married not because of ancestry that gained wealth through work which can be obtained or lost by ordinary wealthy folk but who are wealthy through what they've taken from their country due to the ridiculous concept of being ordained by God to have it. These people are who they are and have what they have through nothing more than a direct line of birth to the very king George of Germany America fought against to get out from under that yoke. Today's people of Britain aren't even citizens, they're subjects of this farcely "royal" family, and it's WAY passed time to unload both the "royal" family and the entire concept of royalty.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Perhaps I could have used your help in writing this thread... I think I wrote the short form which annoyed so many here.. They all sounded so clever with their sarcastic comments.. wish I could be as talented. So thanks for taking it to the next step...which I kind of thought was what everyone would have thought..
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Classy.
Pelican
(1,156 posts)You wild rebel you... The system can't contain you!
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)donheld
(21,311 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)You are brown spot, right on!!
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Rex
(65,616 posts)Don't make the Nelson family angry! You LOVE baby poop! Royal baby poop is divine! Besides you got to fluff 30 minutes of nothing into filler material. Not like they report news anymore. Just when Justin Bieber makes a poop. And Madonna.
MFM008
(19,814 posts)because he is the son of Princess Diana. I found myself thinking of her today.