Georgie other than his mummy cakes anways?

Was the driver black? See, a life taken a life saved. He's even now.

See, everybody...Zimmerman isn't a racist...he saved this black family!

if that was the case. Since its not right there I'm the title, most likely they are not black people.

From the Douglas County Sentinel.

"Although Zimmerman is classed as “white Hispanic,” his great-grandfather was black, and he has black relatives. He was raised in a mixed-race home. His grandmother babysat two black girls in the community for years, the girls ate their meals with Zimmerman’s family, and traveled back and forth to school with the Zimmerman children.

Zimmerman is a registered Democrat who supported Barack Obama for President.

He chose a black girl as his date for his high-school prom.

In 2004, Zimmerman and a black friend opened an insurance office together.

Zimmerman and his wife tutored and mentored black kids for years, free of charge.

In 2011, the Sanford Police failed to arrest a white police lieutenant’s son after he assaulted a homeless black man. Zimmerman played a leading role in protesting the cover up. He passed out fliers urging citizens to attend a public meeting about the case, and confronted the newly-elected mayor at the meeting, demanding more police accountability".

Read more at;

http://www.douglascountysentinel.com/opinion/columnists/article_c357b23a-f316-11e2-97a0-0019bb30f31a.html

He might of pulled (with the persons help) but saved suggests they were in danger. I doubt they were if they were able to sit in their car while Zimmerman got a call to help, got dressed, drove down there and did his PR thing

LOL...

I bet there is an insurance scam in the mix as well! Check the registration!

It would be hard to stage a fake accident just for that.

But I seriously doubt it made any difference in the outcome, and could have potentially injured the person/

This was a staged event.

Do you really think the Sanford PD is so corrupt they actually would go to the trouble to helping stage an accident?

A rollover no less?

Even professional stunt drivers have to work pretty hard to get a rollover to go right, under controlled conditions. Doing it in public would be pretty damm obvious to all driving by.

Something like this would be pretty damm hard to stage in public. If it was a rear ending or something, sure- but a rollover?

Remember there are powerful people making money off of this story and they could pull off a stunt like this.

Yes it would be hard but not impossible.

an accident.

he was sitting at home listening to the scanner and rushed himself there- that would fit the profile of the holster sniffer/whacker type.

All he needs is a phone.

is that he was the first responder on the scene, and I think we know how slow first response is in this town...

If you look at the timeline from the first call, it was pretty long, when the dispatchers heard from neighborhood residents that there was an actual fight going on, they should have had the cops hit the pedal and the sirens. Just the noise of sirens on the way might well have affected the outcome that night.

Everybody knows that cop response time is a joke, that's why you have so very many people wanting to own their own guns.

7:09:34 – 7:13:41 — George Zimmerman calls the Sanford Police Department (SPD) from his truck; total time of the call is 4 minutes 7 seconds.[13]

7:13:41 — The end of Zimmerman's call to Sanford police.[14]

7:16:00 – 7:16:59 — Martin's call from the girl goes dead during this minute.[14][15]

7:16:11 — First 911 call from witness about a fight, calls for help heard.[16]

7:16:55 — Gunshot heard on 911 call.[17]

7:17 — The first officer on the scene, Officer T. Smith arrives by squad car at Retreat View.[18]

7:40 — Sanford Fire Department treats Zimmerman for his injuries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin


I count that as 8 minutes from the beginning of zimmerman's non-emergency call to the arrival of the first policeman.

>1 minute from the first 911 call.

I doubt that anybody appreciated his "help" at the scene. It sounds like he pushed himself in where he was neither needed nor wanted.

Brilliant. Stealing.

They want to be heroes so bad they rush to the scene before the police get there.

Staging a rescue is easier to believe than staging an accident.

Most PD's are on the side of the prosecution when they arrest someone for murder. The Sanford PD had nothing but praise for GZ when they testified for the prosecution. Hell, during the recorded interview with GZ after the murder, The officer actually said that he wanted to help him. I think it was a sincere statement by the officer. Sure, I think they'd help him out again.

Their kind always stick together.

It said he was not witness to the crash, just showed up at the scene. He must be monitoring the police scanner because he's paranoid. More than ever likely. I bet he's staying at the house of the guy who bought him the suits. Out of money. Feeling misunderstood, characterized as a weenie wimp. Wanting to prove he's one of the good guys. Just spontaneous act on his part. Like the creepy ass cracker he is. Sanford PD might as well appoint him their mascot.

I did something similar myself once for a guy who'd flipped his truck into a ditch. Though honestly, I think I was wiser for not yanking the man out and possibly injuring him further. Instead, I just made sure the vehicle wasn't on fire while calling the paramedics.

The professionals would have been there a minute or two later and would have done the same thing, help them out of their vehicle. Big deal. Some supporters are acting like he saved a bus load of kids from going into a river.

That county just staged a fake trial. This one isn't tough in contrast

However, please help me make sense of this. This is a man who has basically not been seen in public since the trial. At least that is what most people are saying. On one side it's because he fears for his life (RW) and on the other side he's afraid someone on (LW) is out to get him.

So NOW he decides it's time to make the decision to venture out, and just coincidentally happens upon an accident, one where HE is in a position to SAVE SOMEONE!! Can I prove it's not true no. But I'm skeptical enough to believe that if such a thing happened, perhaps it was staged. Not sure who might have helped set it up, maybe that Taffey guy who loves him and yapped throughout the trial. Or could it have been juror #37?

And WHY would he actually go out without a support group just in case he gets confronted?

I live across the state from Sanford, and today a it's really, really hot outside. Given his weight and perhaps lack of access to a gym, there's is a good likelihood that he would either pass out, or had a stroke.

I do have to add, because of my cynicism, I actually didn't read the article because I felt it was a joke. So I will go back and read it because I don't really know when this really occurred. Shouldn't have speculated so much, but don't want to rewrite all of this again. I will read it now and correct any misstatements by me. Sorry, my bad.


But, weird things happen. Hey, he was found "not guilty" and that's weird to me!!

I just don't believe it.

.... is not evidence? Reported by ABC News?

What is your criterion for "evidence?"

I may be wrong and I will say sorry if I am wrong.

Video of the rescue? What if that is just part of the hollywood style stunt?

Wouldn't it just be easier to admit that there is nothing that could convince you with certainty that it was just an accident?

Let me ask you does this not seem a little odd to you.

Or, do you think they are fake also?

hrmjustin, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. So what if he did help a family in a car crash. It doesn't change the fact that he killed a child, and never will.

But, to go all conspiracy? I think you are better than that.

now.

involved (Fire and Rescue, Police Officers, the family (and kids) in the car) were involved in a publicity stunt?

You may be right in the end and he wanted to play hero and got to the scene. I don't know.

I hope there is video.

If not, are you willing to concede that this is a genuine story?

No Sorry but I am not buying it.

The family, the other man, the Sanford PD, the Seminole County Sheriffs Office, the Fire/Rescue people, all the news organizations that reported this, are in on the conspiracy?

Sometimes, a duck is just a duck.

report.

why should it be up to me to prove that it's not?

How the hell do I know why it took so long to report it? Maybe the news organizations were confirming it was true.

That NBC, ABC, HuffPo, CNN, Fox, Sanford PD, Seminole County SO, the victims, the other person with Zim, Fire/Rescue were all part of a conspiracy to make Zim look good?

Sometimes a duck is just that, a duck.

Do you have proof that Zim wasn't there? Do you have proof that this is some kind of conspiracy this is a "rehabilitation" of Zim?

You can believe it if you want. Just seems too perfect.

In my sometimes warped mind, it still doesn't excuse what he stood trial for.

Yes it is possible as you said but still seems odd. Took several days to report this. He walks out without security when he one of the most hated men in America. Just seems odd to me.

So, are you willing to concede that this is a bullshit story? Or would that hurt too much?

http://freakoutnation.com/2013/07/24/its-a-bird-its-a-plane-its-zimmer-man-but-his-reported-rescue-of-the-car-crash-seems-to-be-falling-to-pieces/

They're about as believable as Faux news. When I hear it from a reputable source, then I'll change my mind, until then..........

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The accident was also stated to be at the intersection of I-4 and 417.

Burning car or not a burning car? I-4 and 46 or I-4 and 417?

There are legitimate questions.

IMHO, there probably was an accident, and Zimmerman did assist the family. With that being said, I think the story has been hyped up to make George look like more of a hero here than he really was.

That seems strange. Chotto hen na.

They would love to make a hero out of him.

Usou iteru.

wakatta ne.

It makes DU look dumb and there seems to be more and more of it here.

The NBC story says he and another man rescued a family of 4 from a burning SUV. Seminole County Sheriff units arrived as they were pulling the kids out.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/22/19618495-zimmerman-emerges-to-help-family-from-burning-car-in-sanford-fla?lite

Unless some other news comes out, I see no reason to disbelieve it.

You think this is a conspiracy between the Seminole Deputies, the family of 4 and the other man helping?,

Think ABC, NBC, Huffpo are in on the conspiracy?

It would seem that your obsession with everything Zim is clouding your judgement, but, that's ok.

But I don't take this at face value.

But hey thanks for the insult and welcome to DU.

Thanks for the welcome.

Typically a news header is written based on a first, OFTEN innaccurate report. None of the articles say ANYTHING about a fire, just that firefighters at the scene were told something. Firefighters often go to car accidents just in case they are needed, in case of fuel spill or fire. It looks like in this case there was no fire. It does not matter what the web page address is. There is nothing in the story saying there was a fire.

But that still doesn't prove that this was a PR stunt.

Now it isn't.

smh & smh (shaking my head AND so much hate)

And this is woo. Good grief, people. Dozens of people would have to be "in on this" for it to have been a staged event. Sometimes coincidences simply happen. Rarely do conspiracies.

Zimmerman is no lovable character by any means, but I think the irrational, blinding hatred of him by some will cause them to believe all sorts of ridiculous things.

He's a slimeball with a hero complex who happened to be in the right place at the right time.

but to let it manifest in ways like this, that's embarrassing.

Turn your efforts away from irrational questions like the OP. Do people really think the media is in a conspiracy with Zimmerman to paint him as a nice guy? Waaaaaay over the top.

In other words, the truth is probably somewhere between him being Superman, and the event being totally staged.

As the truth generally is.

but not beyond unreasonable doubt, which is on display here. Those who see Zimmerman a pure evil just can't imagine him doing anything good.

Face facts, you 75 percenters, Zimmerman did do something good in getting people out of an upside down vehicle. If you want to put a negative spin on this, think of Zimmerman as a wannabe cop doing what any real cop would do.

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The fact that people are immediately yelling conspiracy or something goes to show just how often people will disregard information because it doesn't fit their world view.

I don't agree with what Zimmerman did, but that doesn't mean that I need to believe he will do nothing good from now until the day he dies. Some people are however obsessed with seeing the world in strict good and evil terms. I'm sure freaking Hitler would have stopped to help someone on the side of the road, that doesn't make him a good person

then I tell you......

Don't know much about him, don't want to know much about him.

it follows that Zimmerman is too. Assume Trayvon would've saved the man and it follows Zimmerman would follow suit. QED it must be true.

If he did so, then good, it doesn't erase what he has done prior.
Regardless, it is only decent and expected to help out a car that rolled over. Thought most people did that if they could easily stop. Even I have done the same thing twice in my life each time I saw a car roll over.

Good for him if he has done so, but I don't see this being a big deal.

I read once about a woman who's car broke down next to an unsupervised work gang. The prisioners fixed her car and got her back on the road, no hassles.
It doesn't change what happened in the past. How many good deeds does it take to make up for unjustly taking a life...

Then he pulled out the victims, but ran away before anyone could talk to him.

It's as crazy as any of the rest of this shit.