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struggle4progress

(118,286 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:16 PM Jul 2013

It's Now Clear That Russian Intelligence Speaks For Edward Snowden

Geoffrey Ingersoll
41 minutes ago

... Snowden supposedly said he has no plans to travel to Latin America because at this time, he thought it too dangerous to travel.

How do we know that? Well, Kucherena said Snowden said it, of course.

Not only does Kucherena run the FSB's public relations, but it seems he runs Snowdens PR as well — he "helped" Snowden apply for temporary asylum, he relayed Snowden's "promise" not to hurt the U.S. anymore, and he announced Snowden's (very own) idea about possibly applying for Russian citizenship with the intent to stay for a while and "learn Russian culture."

In short, intelligence expert and freelance reporter Joshua Foust may be right: the FSB speaks for Snowden now in what looks like a "a sophisticated intelligence operation against the United States."

http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-intelligence-speaks-for-edward-snowden-2013-7

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It's Now Clear That Russian Intelligence Speaks For Edward Snowden (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2013 OP

Wait until winter comes. He may sing a different tune...n/t monmouth3 Jul 2013 #1

Huh? johnp3907 Jul 2013 #9

Russia = Cold...sigh.. monmouth3 Jul 2013 #10

Oh. Duh! johnp3907 Jul 2013 #11

My cousin worked for the gov. (ours) for a few years. She loved it but the cold was gruesome.n/t monmouth3 Jul 2013 #12

How supremely ironic Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #2

If only there were some way to make the disclosures less damaging... Pholus Jul 2013 #3

The only thing that's clear from that are layers of speculation heaped upon a deep malice. leveymg Jul 2013 #4

Very true. PSPS Jul 2013 #6

It is an "Opinion Piece" not journalism emulatorloo Jul 2013 #8

Well, it's clear someone is speaking for someone, woo me with science Jul 2013 #5

it is not clear at all until you hear it directly from the subject nt msongs Jul 2013 #7

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

1. Wait until winter comes. He may sing a different tune...n/t

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:19 PM

Jul 2013

johnp3907

(3,731 posts)

9. Huh?

Reply to monmouth3 (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:37 PM

Jul 2013

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

10. Russia = Cold...sigh..

Reply to johnp3907 (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:23 PM

Jul 2013

johnp3907

(3,731 posts)

11. Oh. Duh!

Reply to monmouth3 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:58 PM

Jul 2013

Sorry. Sometimes it's the really simple remarks that confuse me. I was trying to find some kind of "spy who came in from the cold" angle. It's not like I haven't heard enough stories about my wife's times there. My favorite is the one about the Diet Coke freezing during the 2 block walk from the store to the flat.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

12. My cousin worked for the gov. (ours) for a few years. She loved it but the cold was gruesome.n/t

Reply to johnp3907 (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:59 PM

Jul 2013

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

2. How supremely ironic

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:22 PM

Jul 2013

Snowden is worried about US spying and surveillance. So what does he do?

He flees to Russia, a country which is well-known for spying and surveillance. Oh, BTW, Russia is also run by a guy named Vladamir Putin who is known for his desire to target political opponents by any means necessary.

Snowden then acquires a lawyer who works for Russia's main spy agency.

You just can't make this shit up.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)

3. If only there were some way to make the disclosures less damaging...

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:22 PM

Jul 2013

ok...now I'm just spitballing here...but if perhaps we hadn't been conducting dragnet surveillance on our own population maybe things would have worked a bit differently?

But don't worry, the NSA has a new "no lone zone" rule now so HOPEFULLY we won't have any embarrassing disclosures about our embarrassing activities again!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)

4. The only thing that's clear from that are layers of speculation heaped upon a deep malice.

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:24 PM

Jul 2013

When I see the term "clear" or "seems" or "expert" used in advocacy journalism or targeted propaganda, I know it's none of them.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)

6. Very true.

Reply to leveymg (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:38 PM

Jul 2013

Besides, where else but "business insider" should one go for "expert opinion" on constitutional matters? Radio disc jockeys?
The piece was just another #13.