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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:49 PM Jul 2013

Cameron cracks down on 'corroding influence' of online pornography

Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography, David Cameron will announce on Monday.

In the most dramatic step by the government to crack down on the "corroding" influence of pornography on childhood, the prime minister will say that all internet users will be contacted by their service providers and given an "unavoidable choice" on whether to use filters.

The changes will be introduced by the end of next year. As a first step, customers who set up new broadband accounts or switch providers would have to actively disable the filters by the end of this year.

The moves will be announced by the prime minister in a speech to the NSPCC in which he will unveil a series of measures to reduce access to pornography with a particular focus on images of child sexual abuse. He will say:

• The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed.

• The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) is to draw up a blacklist of "abhorrent" internet search terms to identify and prevent paedophiles searching for illegal material.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jul/22/david-cameron-crackdown-internet-pornography

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Cameron cracks down on 'corroding influence' of online pornography (Original Post) cali Jul 2013 OP
This is a huge step for tyranny. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #1
The measures to identify and prosecute child porn and its users seem just fine to me. Squinch Jul 2013 #5
I dont disagree, but it looks like this is going a lot farther. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #10
Yes, but I am not against going after those who use rape simulations either. Partly because I am Squinch Jul 2013 #12
Looks like just another excuse to monitor what people do. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #14
Looks like an excuse to keep rape simulations away from 10 year olds. Squinch Jul 2013 #15
Sure if you believe them. Why would they tell you the truth? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #16
We've already given up the ability to keep that stuff away from kids till they're old enough to Squinch Jul 2013 #20
Dafuq? sakabatou Jul 2013 #2
infringing the rights of christians to watch porn? untinkable lol nt msongs Jul 2013 #3
he needs a blowjob from Cucinelli rurallib Jul 2013 #4
Is Cameron using this war on porn to bury Jimmy Savile-BBC scandal? Octafish Jul 2013 #6
Wait, theyre outlawing "simulated rape"?? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #7
Almost all hentai vids would be banned also Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #11
Government control of the internet LittleBlue Jul 2013 #8
Excellent post ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #17
Fuck that noise. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #9
Finally! A blacklist of abhorrent internet search terms cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #13
I like the part where people basically have to register with the government as 'porn consumers' ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #18
Just tell me where I have to sign to make sure I can keep my porn. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #19

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
5. The measures to identify and prosecute child porn and its users seem just fine to me.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jul 2013

Tolerating abuse and exploitation of certain citizens is its own form of tyranny.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
12. Yes, but I am not against going after those who use rape simulations either. Partly because I am
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jul 2013

certain that plenty of them are not simulations.

And the only other measure the article mentioned was that porn is not automatically provided on an internet connection, and you have to opt in to allowing access to porn sites by clicking on a few option buttons when you initiate your account.

I have no problem with any of that. I certainly don't see tyranny in it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. Sure if you believe them. Why would they tell you the truth?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jul 2013

Some times I wish I was more trusting. I guess I have seen too many use trust to take advantage. Your quest is honorable. Just dont give up too much.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
20. We've already given up the ability to keep that stuff away from kids till they're old enough to
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:50 AM
Jul 2013

understand what they are seeing.

The suggestion that a couple of key strokes when initiating an account is an imposition by Big Brother strikes me as unrealistic. The powers-that-be who want to know what you are looking at already have the means to know what you are looking at. This doesn't change anything about that for better or worse. So it really isn't about trust. If anything, I am surprised that you trust that the absence of this screen gives you any protections that the presence of this screen would diminish.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Is Cameron using this war on porn to bury Jimmy Savile-BBC scandal?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jul 2013

Jimmy was connected to everyone who's anyone in British society and British paedophilia.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
7. Wait, theyre outlawing "simulated rape"??
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jul 2013

So pretty much all BDSM porn would be illegal.

Holy shit!! Wtf is wrong with that guy??

Good thing I don't live in UK. Its turning into China.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. Almost all hentai vids would be banned also
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jul 2013

...Or so I would understand based on what some friends of friends say...It's not like I'd know anything about their content, artistic quality, or even where to find uncensored English-language examples online...

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
8. Government control of the internet
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jul 2013

Government officials seek to control anything they are not in control of. The information on the internet is not yet subject to their control. They have seen that China effectively controls their population by controlling what they view on the internet.

This is the first step, and it comes in the most predictable form, an appeal to the welfare of children. Meanwhile, child poverty in the UK is skyrocketing. Currently one in six children lives in poverty. That number will be one in four by 2020. You can tell his interest in children isn't genuine by how he largely ignores the poverty issue to focus on this.

Never believe a conservative government, their motives are not genuine. Many on the left in Britain can see right through this. They don't care about children, they want control.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
17. Excellent post ...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:10 AM
Jul 2013

I also wonder how long it'll be before there's laws that allow the police to break down someone's door and tackle them within minutes of them typing an 'abhorrent' sexual search term into their browsers? You know, gotta 'protect the children' and such.

Seriously, though ... the creeping fascism going on is friggin' out of control.

TPTB of the West are clearly growing jealous of the level of command/control exercised by the Chinese government. Oh, and the Muslim governments of various countries like Iran and KSA ... those governments are exactly what the West needs to more closely imitate. No, really.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
13. Finally! A blacklist of abhorrent internet search terms
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jul 2013

This sounds like an excellent use of resources.

I have always thought the one thing we lacked from government was a blacklist of abhorrent internet search terms.

They had me at "blacklist." "Abhorrent" was the icing.

The NSA has lists of suspicious search terms, which is a start, but it's just a list with no color specified.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
18. I like the part where people basically have to register with the government as 'porn consumers' ...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:03 AM
Jul 2013

There's no way a list like that could ever be abused by the authorities.

What's wrong with the idea that if you, say, buy a phone for your 10 year old, you tell the people at the phone store or the ISP that this is a 10yo's phone, and you want porn blocked as best as possible? Rather than making adults 'sign up' as porn consumers?

What's next ... you have to choose which 'classes' of porn you prefer? Shall we make people sign up with the government if they wanna see 'gay porn'? How about if you like to watch 18-19 year olds (i.e. legal, but technically 'teens') having sex?

Also, many 'legitimate' BDSM videos are basically rape simulations. Sure, it's distasteful to many (myself included) but if consenting adults want to take part in this apparently fairly popular sub-genre of porn, and other adults want to watch it ... who is the government or you and I to say it's 'evil' or 'wrong'? Shall we make people sign up to allow 'BDSM' porn on their connections, just in case someone somewhere gets raped, that way Big Brother automatically has a list of 'suspects'?

I don't know about anyone else, but putting everyone's preference for porn/no porn into a big government database, one that everyone themselves 'signed up' for, so it can't really even be legally challenged as 'spying', cause they've given the government the full right to TRACK the stuff for us ... just really rubs me the wrong way. Too much potential for abuse, and for a slippery slope effect for my liking.

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