(I don't know if it's really eighty--just pulled the number out of my a** to make a point.....)

Distance from Baghdad, Iraq to Hanoi, Vietnam is:

3811.1 Miles
( 6133.4 Kilometers / 3309.6 Nautical Miles )
Approximate flight duration time from Baghdad to Hanoi is:
7 hrs, 55 mins

...what IS the difference between Viet Nam and Iraq?

And getting into those bloody air battles over the skies of Texas...

If you'll remember your history the Viet Cong attacked Texas with MIG's launched from their mighty aircraft carriers...

Vietnam Casualties
1968 -16,899
1969 - 11,780
1970 - 6,173
1971- 2,414
1972 - 759
From National Archives.

2008 322
2009 150
2010 60
2011 54
2012 1
From icasualties.org

I suppose those are just coalition casualties at the bottom and US casualties at the top. Possibly if you included Iraqi and Vietnamese casualties the numbers would be a lot closer together.

Bryant

More than 5,000 of those losses were from South Korea alone, with smaller numbers from Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, and Philippines. (Despite what Ann Coulter claimed, Canada's military forces were not involved in VN. )

And on the other side, there were some Chnese and Russian military fatalities.

They would never have given up; they had already been fighting for generations.

The only way we could have won in Vietnam is if we had given them their freedom from foreign domination, communist or not. But instead the minute the French were run out we walked right into the middle of a civil war and stayed to the bitter end, at great cost to them, to ourselves and to our moral character.

Eight or nine years ago.

Whether these treaties were actually worth anything or not, our government considered that we had a responsibility to act. It was stupid to see the conflict as anything but a civil war that we had no right intervening in, but at least there were reasons.

In Iraq, there were was nothing, no reason whatever for going to war. All lies. Nobody from Iraq was involved in 9-11. It may have been Bush's desire to one-up his old man, proving he wouldn't stop at the border but would bring shock and awe to the whole country. It may have been Cheny's vision of an oil bonanza for the oil interests. But whatever the reason, it had nothing to do with morality or common sense. It's the worst stain on America's honor in American history IMHO.