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sellitman

(11,606 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:55 PM Jul 2013

Spent time with a gent today who's son lost a best friend yesterday.

This friend was only 21 years old.

My acquaintances son just entered the Military and had not gotten the news yet that his best friend was dead. He was trying to get the Military Chaplin to give him the news before his son found out by the social networks.

Another tragic story of "Legal Gun Ownership" gone awry.

So sad. Untrained 21 year olds with guns. What could possibly go wrong?




http://www.newstimes.com/policereports/article/Accidental-shot-kills-New-Fairfield-man-4678137.php


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Spent time with a gent today who's son lost a best friend yesterday. (Original Post) sellitman Jul 2013 OP
So the NRA solution would be to give them all gun training? aquart Jul 2013 #1
The gun training does not have to be done by the NRA. Jenoch Jul 2013 #2
More could be prevented by tougher laws/restrictions. Hoyt Jul 2013 #6
What law do you suggest that Jenoch Jul 2013 #7
No more toting, waiting periods, mental health tests, training that doesn't Hoyt Jul 2013 #8
You veered off course. Jenoch Jul 2013 #9
The ones that stop gun proliferation, scare the hell out of gun owners, etc. Hoyt Jul 2013 #11
How about some specifics? Jenoch Jul 2013 #13
Do you think it would have happened if semi-auto handguns had been restricted 20 years ago? Hoyt Jul 2013 #16
Where can't you carry a sword? Jenoch Jul 2013 #19
Post deleted as duplicate, sorry. Even best screw up, why I don't pay attention to those claiming Hoyt Jul 2013 #17
Huh? Jenoch Jul 2013 #18
Nope. sellitman Jul 2013 #3
At a gas station at 1:30am? Link Speed Jul 2013 #4
I don't undersand your reference to a gas station. Jenoch Jul 2013 #10
"The incident occurred about 1:30 a.m. Sunday at the Mobil gas station on Route 37" cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #12
Thank you for the correction. Jenoch Jul 2013 #14
I wholeheartedly agree. I've attended several gun safety classes over the years. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #15
My brother has taught a DNR Jenoch Jul 2013 #20
What about victims of students, and I doubt your brother can track students. Hoyt Jul 2013 #21
Where Was The Good Guy? SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #5
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
2. The gun training does not have to be done by the NRA.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jul 2013

I have a brother who has taught gun safety in conjuction with the state DNR for over 25 years. Many of these gun accidents could be prevented through education.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
7. What law do you suggest that
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jul 2013

could have prevented the unfortunate incident this thread is about?

Even the family wishes there to be more gun safety education.

http://meadvilletribune.com/local/x1501689367/No-charges-in-accidental-shooting-death

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. No more toting, waiting periods, mental health tests, training that doesn't
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jul 2013

glorify guns, bloody videos, recertification, no more training solely by NRA instructors or other gun cultists, etc.

If a person is involved in domestic violence like Zimmerman, whatever gun rights they have should be appealed. If anyone is involved in a gun incident, no matter if all end well, sorry no more gunners for the proven accident prone.

And we need to change public's perception of gun culture. When we see someone with a gun on city streets, we need to look at them as a Zimmerman, or someone walking down street with a sword or spear, or confederate flag.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. The ones that stop gun proliferation, scare the hell out of gun owners, etc.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:54 PM
Jul 2013

This doesn't have to be a short term effort. The goals of decreasing such incidents can be a several decade effort, starting with bringing gun culture into 21st century.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
13. How about some specifics?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jul 2013

You have written some mumbo jumbo without any concrete examples of laws that would have changed the incident that is the topic of this thread.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Do you think it would have happened if semi-auto handguns had been restricted 20 years ago?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:15 AM
Jul 2013

There's one for starters. Why the hell do you need a gun on city streets?

I can't carry a sword, why should gun cultists get to pack a semu-auto, practice to draw, practice to shoot someone using targets resembling humans.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. Where can't you carry a sword?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:32 AM
Jul 2013

Are you saying that semi-auto handguns should have been banned 20 years ago?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. Post deleted as duplicate, sorry. Even best screw up, why I don't pay attention to those claiming
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:16 AM
Jul 2013

they are world's safest gun toter.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
3. Nope.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jul 2013

My post was just to point out how yet another life was snuffed out because of our ever loving need to have guns.

Yes training was needed but were guns needed?

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
4. At a gas station at 1:30am?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

Pure genius at work. What else could have gone wrong?

Toxicology tests pending...

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
10. I don't undersand your reference to a gas station.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:49 PM
Jul 2013

It happened at a residence.

http://meadvilletribune.com/local/x1501689367/No-charges-in-accidental-shooting-death

This is another situation where gun safety training and education could have saved a life. It appears that the person handling the gun did not understand that when a magazine is removed from a semi-auto gun it does not mean the gun is unloaded.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
12. "The incident occurred about 1:30 a.m. Sunday at the Mobil gas station on Route 37"
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:58 PM
Jul 2013

That's from the link in the OP.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. Thank you for the correction.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:30 AM
Jul 2013

I have been providing a link to another incident. Several of these types of accidents have happened in the Twin Cities in recent years. That is more of a reason for people to get gun safety education.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
15. I wholeheartedly agree. I've attended several gun safety classes over the years.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:46 AM
Jul 2013

It seems each one is slightly different depending on the instructor. My Wife attended the last one I went to and she liked it so much that for the first time she thought she wanted a pistol. She was Annie Oakley on the range and it tickled her no end.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
20. My brother has taught a DNR
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jul 2013

sponsored gun safety course for over 25 years and so far, he has not lost a single student to a gun accident. (Some of those 'students' are in their late 30's now.)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. What about victims of students, and I doubt your brother can track students.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:54 AM
Jul 2013

Who you think you are fooling?

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