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leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
1. Conversations needed: Jobs Program, Housing Program, Health Program
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jul 2013

Raise the fucking minimum wage program


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BumRushDaShow

(129,072 posts)
5. He did say it in this manner
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jul 2013
And then finally, I think it’s going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching. You know, there have been talk about should we convene a conversation on race. I haven’t seen that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations. They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-19/politics/40672554_1_trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-president-obama-s/3


Full transcript: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-19/politics/40672554_1_trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-president-obama-s

I think the point is that "conversations" can definitely still go on in the local communities, various social organizations, churches, schools, etc. However at the governmental level, an action plan to address some of the systemic issues (e.g., "Stand your Ground", gun control, etc) is more vital than convening "blue ribbon panels" that essentially acknowledge there is a problem and then the discussion suddenly evolves into nonsensical fears of "throwing money at a problem", etc., after which the issue is shoved aside and forgotten once more.

BumRushDaShow

(129,072 posts)
10. And so you don't think he is a "politician"?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jul 2013


I think he is addressing the knee-jerk reaction of folks demanding that the "President" start the "conversation", which usually results in convening a "blue ribbon panel" vs having communities continue to have the discussions BUT also have those in the political area (federal, state, local) try to take a look at some of the elements (e.g., laws) that may be continuing the institutionalizing of the problem.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
7. You cannot have action without first having a discussion.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jul 2013

Just because race is discussed does not mean we are having intelligent discussions on race.

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