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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI agree with my President, This country doesn't need another "Conversation on Race".
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What this nation needs is a plan of action against institutionalize RACISM. What are your thoughts DU?
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I agree with my President, This country doesn't need another "Conversation on Race". (Original Post)
HoosierRadical
Jul 2013
OP
Welcome to DU… Obama didn't say the US doesn't need another Conversation on Race. So why say he did?
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#3
he very specifically states "WHEN POLITICIANS". So no, he didn't say that. At all.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#8
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)1. Conversations needed: Jobs Program, Housing Program, Health Program
Raise the fucking minimum wage program
etc
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)2. There's a lot of conversations needed in this country.
Sadly.
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)4. +1 And all part and parcel if you ask me.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)3. Welcome to DU… Obama didn't say the US doesn't need another Conversation on Race. So why say he did?
BumRushDaShow
(129,072 posts)5. He did say it in this manner
And then finally, I think its going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching. You know, there have been talk about should we convene a conversation on race. I havent seen that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations. They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-19/politics/40672554_1_trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-president-obama-s/3
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-19/politics/40672554_1_trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-president-obama-s/3
Full transcript: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-19/politics/40672554_1_trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-president-obama-s
I think the point is that "conversations" can definitely still go on in the local communities, various social organizations, churches, schools, etc. However at the governmental level, an action plan to address some of the systemic issues (e.g., "Stand your Ground", gun control, etc) is more vital than convening "blue ribbon panels" that essentially acknowledge there is a problem and then the discussion suddenly evolves into nonsensical fears of "throwing money at a problem", etc., after which the issue is shoved aside and forgotten once more.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)8. he very specifically states "WHEN POLITICIANS". So no, he didn't say that. At all.
BumRushDaShow
(129,072 posts)10. And so you don't think he is a "politician"?
I think he is addressing the knee-jerk reaction of folks demanding that the "President" start the "conversation", which usually results in convening a "blue ribbon panel" vs having communities continue to have the discussions BUT also have those in the political area (federal, state, local) try to take a look at some of the elements (e.g., laws) that may be continuing the institutionalizing of the problem.
markiv
(1,489 posts)6. we've been talking about this my entire life
and one talk just leads to the next one
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)7. You cannot have action without first having a discussion.
Just because race is discussed does not mean we are having intelligent discussions on race.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)9. Racism will never be eradicated, but we can shame racists every chance we get.