Call the police. When you're brown or black there's no guarantee it will turn out well.

also add the poor and disabled to that list.

sad but true. IMO with our country going farther and farther to the right all of us who are different or do not have the means will be a target.

It hurts a great deal when you are looked at as less than human.

That cop was delivering whole milk. That chit'll kill ya. It was a sabotage mission. !!!

1% at the most, preferably skim.

IF he was a real community servant, he would have been delivering green or purple cap milk. When will you get that straight. !!!

how to de-escalate family violence without calling the cops, who are just too violent to be trusted with breaking up an argument or fight. I won't call them.

I will tell you from 30 years of experience that
1 a mentally ill or chemically deranged person is NOT easily "de-escalated"
2. Cops really really wig out when confronted with someone they deem "crazy"

Obviously, the incident in the PO was waaaay out of hand and unjustified.

they certainly aren't going to defuse the situation, and 9 times out of 10 they are only going to make it worse. better to call family and friends for assistance imho.

But the requirements are that the Mental Health crisis worker can only physically see the client at either a hospital or a police station. Going to the client's home is not allowed, for safety reasons.
Most of the calls come from the police or the ER doc, wanting evaluations.

Mentally ill younger teens and disabled children with behavior issues, but overreacting with violence certainly isn't the answer.

Cops need to be trained better to deal with people who are "different", ill, etc. Otherwise, more lives are at stake.

to be that situations should be de-escalated. But now, standard policy seems to be to use maximum force, maximum violence, even when the situation is minor and nonviolent to begin with.

I mentioned to a cop that I had little use for, and even less respect for police. He sneered and said. "Everyone says that until we're needed."

I responded honestly. "So far in my life, I've only needed you to handle paperwork on an accident, and I wouldn't need you for that if it was not a requirement for the insurance company."

It has been more than a decade since then, and my opinion of police has gone downhill, and to this day I have never needed to call them for other than paperwork nonsense.

pattern of the now militarized police treating the general public as the enemy.

There are too many incidents of the police responding in abnormal ways while delivering unnecessary and excessive violence.

The cops who are strung out on steroids are a danger to the public and create situations which make normal law enforcement more difficult in the future. It wouldn't surprise me if the involved cops have been using steroids - as many obviously do - nor would it surprise me if one or more were suffering from " 'roid rage."

There are too many incidents for informed people to think that this is just one story.

"Roid rage is the extremely aggressive or hostile manner associated with taking large doses of steroids."

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-roid-rage.htm

I know that must be so, because I saw that boast posted by a cop on a police facebook page where cops went to vent.

All too many of them are proud of their ability to abuse and cow mere civilians. They see all of the rest of us as perps who just haven't been caught yet.

The "good" cops are not as good as they should be if they won't stop the bad cops from abusing people and won't stop helping to cover up bad cop behavior.

Remember there's three sides to every story.

And the first thing that comes to my mind every time is:

So people that hate guns, and want to restrict or ban the common man from owning them, only want Law Enforcement to have guns.

sure, you may get a few shots off, maybe even take 1 or 2 down. after that you'll get dorner'd.

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My point is that much of the basis of Gun Prohibitionist's mindset is a distrust / dislike of the common person being armed. They do not understand, do not like, and even outright hate, that the average adult American can be armed.

Their attitude is that only "Professionals" should have guns, and if only the "Professionals" had the guns, we would have a much safer and "civilized" country. But, many of these same "Professionals" engage in such egregious actions as in the OP, and they are not limited to one region of the country.

One of the biggest champions of Gun Prohibitionism is Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who not only wants to keep ordinary people from having guns, he thinks if perfectly fine that his NYPD acts like a bunch of Brownshirts.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/30/bloomberg-wont-apologize-for-remarks-on-stop-and-frisk/

Just imagine if a Mayor from anywhere in the south, especially, Florida or Texas would have said that.

And for those that think that Law Enforcement will ever be disarmed, is living in a total, utter and complete fantasy world. the TPTB will NEVER let those that guard them be disarmed.

Do you think the USSS is going to want to disarm in the face of the all the threats directed at POTUS plus other Federal Officials?

Do you think the mayors of major cities like NYC, Chicago, L.A. , D.C will tolerate having unarmed bodyguards? Bloomberg NEVER would. Just like Daley. He still has them today, and how long has he been out of office?

Even if you disarmed the average cop-on the street, there is still going to be some upper level of cops that will have access to firearms just like in the UK with their "Armed Police" concept.

And the wealthy and powerful who are NOT in politics will always make sure that exceptions are written into law that will let them have armed bodyguards, armed private security guards, firms and even outright private security armies guarding gated compounds which would be there solely to protect themselves, their loved ones and their property while leaving the rest of the common people to depend solely on the "good graces" of law enforcement.

All that would end up happening is disarming the average person, which of course, is the ultimate goal of the Gun Prohibitionist Movement.

An entry team is already going to be pretty "militarized," compared to an ordinary beat cop. Even a bunch of squad cars responding to a call are going to represent a lot of firepower (and will be wearing kevlar, although not of a grade that's going to do much vs rifle rounds). Fighting back will not end well, with the best possible outcome for the citizen being that they take down the initial group of cops who are behaving criminally, then surrender to the heavily militarized SWAT team that shows up next (and not have them kill you anyway).

It's understandable, in our angry reaction to this sort of shit to want to fight back...but at present anyway, it's just a spectacularly bad idea.

They attitude seems to be your guilty before all else until proven otherwise and I am white and feel that way. I can understand the hispanic and african american communities feeling that way. You don't know who to turn to.

I find this claim impossible to believe. Everyone breaks the law, without exception.

painting your brush on others. I tell you I haven't broken a law. Why is that hard to believe? If I did break it I didn't know it.

A call for domestic violence may bring a swat team especially if a gun is involved.

I think the NRA promotes having a gun in your home just so the police are justified in showing up on your lawn in full riot gear with AK 47' s. Mo money.

Move along, move along.

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