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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:34 PM Jul 2013

Senator Slams Domestic Spying: ‘Secret Law Has No Place In America’

Senator Slams Domestic Spying: ‘Secret Law Has No Place In America’

By Hayes Brown

WASHINGTON, DC — Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) warned an audience at the Center for American Progress on Tuesday of the threat that the post-9/11 surveillance state could not only become permanent, but extend far beyond even its current reach.

Wyden was one of only ten senators to vote against the re-authorization of the PATRIOT Act in 2006. And in March of last year, he and Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) said Americans would be “stunned” to learn how the Executive Branch was interpreting certain provisions of the law to expand its surveillance power using programs such as the National Security Agency’s sweeping collection of metadata from cell phone and internet companies recently revealed by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden...Wyden claimed — as he did during the debate over drones earlier this year — that there’s a large gap between what the American people believe a law to be and how the Executive Branch interprets it. When it comes to the siphoning up of data from American citizens, “the public was actually misled,” Wyden said, in statements from top intelligence officials including NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

That secret interpretation of the law is upheld, Wyden said, through the use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court, which saw its powers expanded greatly after 9/11. While originally meant to rule on wiretap petitions against possible foreign agents under FISA, the Court has now become the source of broad rulings backing the gathering of information from broad swaths of Americans indefinitely. “There is no other court in America that has strayed so far from the adversarial process,” Wyden said, pointing out that since its rulings are secret, they’re almost impossible to appeal.

Not all programs revealed in the recent leaks found themselves under fire from the senator. When it comes to the NSA’s filtering through internet communications, including the use of the PRISM program, Wyden noted that the agency’s collection had created “information with real value.” Congress should add further privacy protections to Sec. 702 of the PATRIOT act, which authorizes the program, Wyden said, noting that “one program is doing all the work, while the other is along for the ride.”

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http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/07/23/2342801/wyden-nsa-cap/

Of course, Snowden's distortions and international adventure serve to shift the focus to all sorts of misinformation about PRISM, which focuses on foreign targets.

Senators: End Secret Law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022993363

Do you support Senator Leahy's Patriot Act/FISA reform bill?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023135750

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Senator Slams Domestic Spying: ‘Secret Law Has No Place In America’ (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2013 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #1
So Senator Wyden is not the purist BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #2
This... WillyT Jul 2013 #3
Yes, and wouldn't you agree that the facts are important? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #4
The "#1 goal" was to highlight the point being buried in misinformation. ProSense Jul 2013 #5
Boink. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #7

BumRushDaShow

(129,304 posts)
2. So Senator Wyden is not the purist
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jul 2013

that DU purists attribute to him? He can see that there are always shades of gray?

That won't go over well here.

It will be interesting how they address this - http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014546195

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
3. This...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:22 PM
Jul 2013
“If we do not seize this unique moment in our constitutional history to reform our surveillance laws and practices, we will all live to regret it,” Wyden warned. “The combination of increasingly advanced technology with a breakdown in the checks and balances that limit government action could lead us to a surveillance state that cannot be reversed.”


From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023322277






Response to ProSense (Original post)

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. The "#1 goal" was to highlight the point being buried in misinformation.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jul 2013

"He could have emphasized this one, about FISA: 'There is no other court in America that has strayed so far from the adversarial process,” Wyden said, pointing out that since its rulings are secret, they’re almost impossible to appeal.'

I"m a "she," and I could have left out the other paragraphs, but I didn't. If I had, you still have the link so you can read the text in its entirety. I'm free to highlight Wyden's statement on PRISM.

I also provide links to proposed legislation.

I know it will make some feel uncomfortable. Oh well.



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